[Bulk] Re: [SEELANGS] discourse words

[colkitto]

My previous posting doesnt seem to have got through, sorry

By asking that question ( отвечал, а не ответил?) I meant to suggest that 
Putin could have been asked that as a follow up,
meaning "but you haven't really answered the question".

His reaction might have been interesting.

And been offered as an example of making aspect fun.

> The use of the imperfective here appears to be a case of what has often 
> been called "konstatacija fakta" and is perhaps best understood by 
> assigning two meanings to uzhe:  1) so quickly; 2) at some previous time. 
> I don't mean literal translations of uzhe and perhaps there are better 
> ones, but just a way of trying to characterize the ways that uzhe and 
> aspect can be related to be used in two different kinds of situations that 
> convey two different meanings.  Consider the following examples:
> 1) Two students, working together on their Russian homework.  The first 
> one says, "Let's start with ex. 10."  A ja ego uzhe sdelal, says the 
> second.  That is, having done the exercise is part of relevant time that 
> began at some point in the past and continues to the present, with results 
> relevant to the present moment.  So, to try to make it visual,  if the 
> present is marked by an X, then    |----------|X
> 2) A substitute teacher in a Russian class, says "Let's do exercise 10." 
> A my ego uzhe delali, answer the students, meaning that this exercise was 
> done at a previous time and therefore does not need to be done now.  The 
> doing of the exercise was an event completed in a period of time not 
> relevant to the present.  Again to try to make it visual,  |---------| 
> X
>     By choosing the imperfective, Putin is saying that answering that 
> question is already over and done with.  Time to move on.
> At least, that is my reading of it.
> Pat Chaput
> Harvard University
>
>>> ВОПРОС: В моем вопросе речь шла о многополярности в самой России как 
>>> таковой и о том, что касается отношения международного сообщества в 
>>> отношении России, если она не соблюдает эти принципы: убийства 
>>> журналистов, страхи, боязнь, отсутствие свободы, неправительственные 
>>> организации.
>>>
>>> В.ПУТИН: Я два слова скажу. Там был другой какой-то вопрос, на этот я  в 
>>> принципе уже отвечал, когда говорил о составе российского парламента.
>>>
>>> Речь Путина в Мюнхене (2007)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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