It seems they're trying to characterize her vision -- so waking dream, hallucination, mirage, or a synonym for those...
Russell
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From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list on behalf of Krystyna and Nory Steiger
Sent: Mon 7/28/2008 12:25 PM
To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] translation of obmorok na nogakh?
Dear Robert, Jerry and Oleg,
sorry for the lack of context, just afraid of writing too much. Here it is:
Yulia Golova has seen what she thinks is a ghost of an old man in the
corridor of the communal apartment in which she lives. The next day, her
neighbor Nikita questions her about what she saw, including how the ghost
was dressed, to which she replies:
-- ???? ?? ??? ???????, ??? ? ????? ?????.
-- ??? ?????? -- ???????? ?? ?? ????, ??? ???
--?? ???, ?? ????? ?? ?? ????. ?????? ???????, ?? ???? ?? ??-????????????.
??????, ??-?????, ?? ??? ? ?????, ?????? ??? ? ??????? ????? ???????
????????????? ???????? ? ??? ?? ?? ?????, ?? ?? ??????...
-- ? ??????, ?? ???? ????????? ???????????? ???? ???????? ... ?? ??????????
??????????, ??????? ??????????? ? ??? ? ????????!...
-- ??????????, ??????, ??????? ?? ???????? ?????? ? ???????????
-- ?? ? ?? ??? ? ??? ?? ??????, ?? ???? ??-?? ?????? ???-?? ? ???? ????, ??
??? ? ??????? ?????????? ???????!...
--??? ????? ???? ? ?? ?????????? ?????, ? ?????? ????? ???????, ???????
???????? ? ???? ????????. ???? ??? ????? ???? ?? ?????????? ? ?? ?????
???????, ? ??????? ?? ?????.
--??? ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????, ??, ?????, ??????? ???? ???? ???????
????????? ??? ???????? ?? ?????.
-- ??? ??, ?? ??; ? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ????...
Sorry if i've given you too much now, thanks for the suggestions you've all
already given me, any others would be great.
Thanks again,
Krystyna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Chandler" <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] translation of obmorok na nogakh?
> Dear Krystyna,
>
> Now that you have made the situation a bit clearer (you did not explain
> things enough in your first letter!), let me suggest something like, 'I
> must
> have been seeing things!'
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> But it would help to have the complete sentence in Russian, and sentences
> before and after.
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> Best Wishes,
>
> Robert
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>> Dear Oleg,
>> thanks for your quick reply and your suggestions are good ones, very
>> clear
>> and I will keep them in mind; the only thing is that the character
>> doesn't
>> actually fall in a faint, or even wobble, rather she just sees what looks
>> like a ghost and screams, but stays on her feet. Thanks also for the
>> multitran link, I use it all the time. Thanks again,
>> Krystyna
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Oleg Pashuk" <pashuk at KNOLOGY.NET>
>> To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] translation of obmorok na nogakh?
>>
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I think "??????? ?? ?????" is the same as "??????????? ????" which means
>>> "his/her legs gave way beneath him/her," or "his/her legs gave way under
>>> him/her."
>>> (see http://www.multitran.ru/).
>>> I hope it helps.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Oleg Pashuk
>>> pashuk at knology.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Krystyna and Nory Steiger" <steiger at CAN.ROGERS.COM>
>>> To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:00 PM
>>> Subject: [SEELANGS] translation of obmorok na nogakh?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Seelangers,
>>>
>>> would anyone happen to know the English equivalent for the term "???????
>>> ?? ?????" [obmorok na nogakh] ? A woman in my P'etsukh work appears to
>>> have seen a ghost, and uses the term in an attempt to explain away the
>>> occurrence. A friend suggested I use waking/walking faint, and I have
>>> looked into things like waking dreams, lucid dreams, just plain
>>> sleepwaking. It's such a simple term in Russian, I'm hoping not to have
>>> to
>>> resort to anything too technical in English. Any suggestions would be
>>> great, on or off list. I hope my Russian font came through this time.
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Krystyna S.
>>>
>>> Krystyna Steiger, PhD
>>> Literary Translation
>>> steiger at can.rogers.com
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