Ukrainian stress

Olga Meerson meersono at GEORGETOWN.EDU
Fri May 2 19:57:25 UTC 2008


It is Doctor Meerson, not Ms., if you prefer non-first-person terms. I 
shall lighten up or not as and when I choose. You are not saving lives 
here, of course--merely dancing on a great man's coffin--a favourite 
occupation for many Western scholars nowadays.

Dan Newton wrote:

> I really appreciate your help, Ms. Meerson -- and Ralph Cleminson's  
> as well -- but, puh-leez, we're not saving lives here.  And after  
> all, my intention was NOT to consider it a case of bad composition --  
> that's why I asked.  If we all have to walk on egg-shells around the  
> subjects of our research, it's hard to even have a conversation.   
> Lighten up.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On May 2, 2008, at 4:10 AM, Olga Meerson wrote:
>
>>
>> I think one ought to treat Mussorgsky with utter respect and with  
>> even less condescension
>
>
>> For a researcher, the presumption of intent in an author is a must  
>> and is therefore incompatible with a condescending attitude towards  
>> the researched author's lack of control of his own material.
>
>
>>  for a researcher, this smarter-than-thou attitude is unproductive,  
>> to say the least.
>
>
>> So much for alcoholism amongst authors and "crude  physiologism" 
>> (a.k.a. "vulgar sociologism") amongst researchers.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dan Newton <danewton at U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
>> Date: Friday, May 2, 2008 3:17 am
>> Subject: [SEELANGS] Ukrainian stress
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I have a question for anyone familiar with Ukrainian.
>>>
>>> In Musorgskii's opera Soroschintsyi Fair, there is this line:
>>> "Razve
>>> mozhno s moei dochkoi takto obrashchat'sia?"  The musical line is
>>> such that the word "moei" is stressed on the first syllable,
>>> contrary
>>> to Russian speech.  I'm wondering whether this is a case of the
>>> late
>>> stages of alcoholism (i.e., bad composition) or simply a
>>> Ukrainianism.  Would Ukrainian stress the first syllable?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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