Going with Nuno + Rusglish

[John Dingley]

Interesting that John Dunn has no [g] in his pronunciation of "English",
thus pronouncing it [i at lish] and not [i at glish]. I would not think that
the pronunciation [i at lish] is that widespread anywhere in the English-
speaking world.

For [@g] to be reduced to [@] there normally has to be a clear morpheme
boundary, e.g. singer [si@]+er, longing [lo@]+ing. There are exceptions,
e.g. finger [fi at g]+er, although here no morpheme boundary may be felt
and the [@g] > [@] would not then apply. However, in England at least,
[@g] > [@] carries with it a touch of class and is applied by the would-be
upper echelons even where it strictly speaking should not be, e.g.
Langham, [la@]+(h)am rather than the expected [la at g]+(h)am, gingham
[gi@]+(h)am rather than [gi at g]+(h)am. Under severe uxorial pressure I was
obliged to change the pronunciation of my very own family name, i.e.
Dingley, from [di at gli:] to [di at li:], the former being far too common for
my RP-speaking better half. C'est la vie anglaise!

John Dingley

Quoting John Dunn <J.Dunn at SLAVONIC.ARTS.GLA.AC.UK>:

> As a general rule all foreign personal names ending in -o are indeclinable
> (in practical terms that can probably be extended to all personal names with
> the same ending).  There is, though, a лазейка [lazejka] with Marco,
> in that you can 'russify' it to Марк, an option that does not exist with
> Nuno (Nuño?).
>
> Switching to today's other topic, руслиш [ruslish] was one of the words
> proposed for Mikhail Epshtein's Слово года [Slovo goda] project,
> though it failed to make any of the shortlists:
> http://www.newsru.com/russia/16dec2009/yearword.html
> http://blog.imhonet.ru/author/konkurs1/post/1045766/
>
> It occurs to me that there are three different phenomena being referred to
> here:
> (1) Russian with what some consider to be an unduly large admixture of
> anglicisms (e.g. in business- or computer-related contexts) ;
> (2) English containing russianisms (as might be produced by some native
> speakers of Russian;
> (3) The mixture of Russian and English produced by some native speakers of
> Russian living in anglophone countries.
> I am not sure whether any useful purpose would be served by trying to decide
> on a distinct term for each of these phenomena.
>
> Oh, and my pronunciation of 'English' does include a /g/.
>
> John Dunn.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Kingdom <k2kingdom at GMAIL.COM>
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:59:16 +0200
> Subject: [SEELANGS] Going with Nuno
>
> Hi All,
>
> Quick Q: I have two friends, Marco and Nuno.
>
> I'm going with Marco to the store.
>
> I'm going with Nuno to the store.
>
> Я иду с Марком...
>
> Я иду с Нуно...
>
> Do you add the 'm' to either of these? I want to make it "Markom" but not
> "Nunom". (Nuno is a famous guitarist, in case you think I'm just making up
> names here.)
>
> Thanks, and fsem s prazdnikom,
>
> Mark
>
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