C vs Co

Frank J Miller fjm6 at COLUMBIA.EDU
Tue Aug 3 22:23:35 UTC 2010


Here are some rules and examples
FM

3.1. Prepositions ending in consonants usually add -o before:
a) Unqualified monosyllabic noun complements whose nominative contains  
a fleeting vowel:
во рту
изо рта
во мху
во ржи
во рву
ко дну
со льдом
во льду
со лба
ко дню
со дня (but: с днём)
во сне (but: в снах)
со сна
ко сну
со Львом
b) Words beginning with consonant clusters articulated in  the same  
position or which would otherwise be difficult  to pronounce together  
with the preposition. Some of the more commonly occurring of these  
words are:
безо всего
во Владивостоке
во Владимире
во власти
во всяком (случае)
во все, во всё
во вторник
во второй
во Вьетнаме
во главе (в главе)
во дворе
во мгле
во мне
во многом
во множестве
во мраке
во рву
во рту
во сколько
во столько
во сто крат
во тьме
во Флориде
во флоте
во фраке
изо дня в день
ко времени
ко всем, ко всему
ко вторнику
ко второму
ко мне
ко многим
ко многому
надо мной
ото всех
день ото дня
передо мной
со всем, всеми, всей
со всякими
со вторника
со двора
со дна
со дня на день
со зла
со злости,
со злостью
со многими
со мной
со стола
со своим
со слезами
со спиной
со службы
со старушкой
со стены
со сливками
со сметаной
со среды
со славой
со снегом
со станции
Note the following fixed expressions with BO:
во весь голос, во весь рост
во имя (Отца и Сына и Святого духа)
во избежание (ошибок, неприятностей)
во-первых, во-вторых (but в-третьих)




On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Mark Kingdom wrote:

> Thank you, Stefani, it does help. I knew all those examples, but the  
> thing
> is...
>
> ....what, therefore, is the underlying rule to know 100% of the time  
> what it
> will be?
> Is there one?
>
>
> 2010/8/3 Stefani, Sara Marie <samastef at indiana.edu>
>
>> "Co" is used before words that begin with a consonant cluster that  
>> begins
>> with "c" - so "со Стивом" or "со студенткой," but "c сестрой," "с  
>> Сергеем."
>> But not in front of many other consonant clusters like "с  
>> профессором," "с
>> Владом," "с братом." However, you do also say "со всеми," and "со  
>> мной," "со
>> многими людьми."
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Best,
>> sms
>>
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>> list [
>> SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU] on behalf of Stephanie Briggs [sdsures at GMAIL.COM 
>> ]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:09 PM
>> To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] C vs Co
>>
>> I thought it was just a matter of whether the target word starts  
>> with a "C"
>> - it if does, the extra vowel creates a liason which is easier to  
>> say.
>>
>> Stephanie
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>> 2010/8/3 Mark Kingdom <k2kingdom at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Can someone direct me to an online reference which lists the rules  
>>> for
>>> when to use с  vs  со?
>>>
>>> Я ходил туда со Стивом.
>>>
>>> Я ходил туда с Владом.
>>>
>>> I feel if I run through 100 names, I'll see the pattern, but if the
>> work's
>>> already been done, it makes things easier.
>>>
>>> Sorry for such a newbie question.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Mark
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Frank J. Miller
Professor of Slavic Languages
Russian Language Coordinator
Department of Slavic Languages
Columbia University
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