Google's Ngram Viewer

[Lewis B. Sckolnick]

  Give the folks at Google and elsewhere a little time and you will be 
very happy.

Lewis


On 12/29/2010 8:39 PM, Vadim Besprozvanny wrote:
> Exactly, this is one of many limitations one may encounter while using the
> Google n-gram viewer. Number of words in published sources tells nothing
> about the geographic, demographic, sociocultural localization of the words.
>
>
> Adding to that a simple premise that vocabulary requires context (actually
> a hierarchy of contexts) Even faceted search would instill a bit more
> usability to the n-gram viewer. Otherwise I feel really puzzled about the
> possibility to utilize this tool without falling into common linguistic
> traps.
>
> _VB
>
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:20:05 -0500, Richard Robin<rrobin at GWU.EDU>  wrote:
>> Keep in mind that the n-gram viewer only finds words in published books
> and
>> scientific journals — so far. That means that a word had to become
> fairly
>> well established in the language before it would make it into what is
>> surely
>> the most conservative of written media. (Certainly periodicals are
> quicker
>> on the uptake.) Take the word гей, which I remember hearing in the
> early
>> 1990s in Leningrad. But the Google n-gram viewer shows it in the borrowed
>> English meaning only starting in mid-decade of the 2000s. (Previous cites
>> are for the last name Гей and an animal call.) For гей, that’s a
>> 10-15 year
>> gap. Натурал is another example. Its Google n-gram career in the
>> meaning of
>> ‘straight’ appears to start in 1995, 10 years after I first heard the
>> term
>>   — again in Leningrad.
>>
>> -Rich Robin
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Vadim Besprozvanny
>> <vbesproz at umich.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> It would be useful to get a data showing to what extent the books
>>> available
>>> to Google represent the real picture. VB
>>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:05:52 +0100, "R. M. Cleminson"
>>> <rmcleminson at POST.SK
>>> wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately the tool does not take account of orthographical reform.
>>> The
>>>> boom in срам after 1917 is matched by a corresponding decline in
>>>> срамъ.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Originálna správa -----
>>>> Odosielateľ: "Anne Fisher"<anne.o.fisher at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> Komu: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>>>> Dátum: sobota, december 18, 2010 11:19:29
>>>> Predmet: Re: [SEELANGS] Google's Ngram Viewer
>>>>
>>>> This is fascinating. Thank you, Steve. Interesting that срам
>>>> (sram),
>>>> according to this, seems to have boomed in popularity in the post-1917
>>>> years... and oddly enough, шлюха (shliukha) - excuse me - seems
> to
>>>> have been
>>>> in 100% of the books around 1995? Any statisticians out there who can
>>> give
>>>> the background to these figures (i.e. how much we can rely on the
>>>> graphs'
>>>> alluring visuals)?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Steve Marder<asured at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> A new Google initiative may be of interest to some SEELANGS followers
>>> and
>>>>> researchers:
>>>>>
>>>>> In theory:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wjc6p7
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2dod469
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In practice:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2avgdt2
>>>>>
>>>>> Slavic is represented by Russian.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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