Latin for Опасно чув ств о вать себ я безо пасно в опасности
Ernest Sjogren
esjogren at NC.RR.COM
Wed May 5 02:59:10 UTC 2010
> It would seem odd that Russian would have influence on Latin proverbs,
> no?
Yes. But did anyone suggest that?
Ernie Sjogren
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> It would seem odd that Russian would have influence on Latin proverbs,
> no?
>
> -James Pennington
> Phd/ABD DSEELL
> The Ohio State University
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 4, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Ernest Sjogren <esjogren at NC.RR.COM> wrote:
>
>> Following up Ms. Zohrab's clue, this sentence from Publilius Syrus would
>> seem to the original of the lines she quotes:
>>
>> Caret periclo, qui etiam cum est tutus cavet.
>>
>> Very literally: He is free from danger who is wary even when guarded.
>>
>> Publilii Syri SENTENTIAE [MAXIMS, by Publilius Syrus], R. A. H.
>> Bickford-Smith, ed., London, 1895, p. 8
>>
>> The MAXIMS in Latin can be found in many places online such as
>> <http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/syrus.html
>> > or in Google books. (I am no expert and have no idea what may be
>> considered a good edition of the work.)
>>
>> Is this Latin the original of the Russian quotation? An inspiration for
>> it?
>>
>> Ernie Sjogren
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene Zohrab" <Irene.Zohrab at VUW.AC.NZ
>> >
>> To: <SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Latin for Опасно чувств овать себ я безопасн о в
>> опасности
>>
>>
>>> Hi Sergey,
>>>
>>> I have asked a University librarian who put this question up on the
>>> librarians' national email list and was referred to a minor Latin poet
>>> named Publilius Syrus, a contemporary of Julius Caesar in the first
>>> century BC. The following two versions of what he imagines is the same
>>> sentence seem to be the closest he could get to the Russian.
>>>
>>> "One is not exposed to danger who, even when in safety is always on
>>> their guard"
>>>
>>> "He is best secure from dangers who is on his guard even when he seems
>>> safe"
>>>
>>> The work by Publilius is in a volume of minor Latin poets held in
>>> off-campus storage, so he has requested it in the hope of finding the
>>> original Latin.
>>> Failing that you might need to find in which library Publilius's works
>>> are held and go from there.
>>>
>>> We will get back to you if he finds it.
>>>
>>> Irene Zohrab
>>> Victoria University
>>> Wellington
>>> New Zealand
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
>>> [SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of serge tyuli [sergeytlnv at GMAIL.COM]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:11 AM
>>> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
>>> Subject: [SEELANGS] Latin for Опасно чувствовать себ я безопасно в
>>> опасности
>>>
>>> Does anybody know the Latin original for the Russian "Опасно чувст
>>> вовать
>>> себя безопасно в опасности"? Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>> Sergey Tyulenev
>>>
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