transliteration - Ukrainian & Russian to English

anne marie devlin anne_mariedevlin at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu May 6 09:23:18 UTC 2010


just an observation - but isn't ff used to indicate final devoicing for French native speakers?
 
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 02:48:45 -0400
> From: paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] transliteration - Ukrainian & Russian to English
> To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
> 
> Margarita Orlova wrote:
> 
> > I prefer foreigners to acquire the Northern pronunciation:) Otherwise
> > they sound exaggerating like if they were the "litsa kavkazskoj
> > natsional'nosti". (If you understand what i am talking about;)
> 
> I understand the bigotry that exists in Russian culture (we have our own 
> shameful counterparts), but I was just having some fun with a reductio 
> ad absurdum. The akanye was incidental; my main point was about using 
> "ff" to indicate final devoicing.
> 
> > I am talking about a phonemic pronunciation being more natural than
> > exaggerating use of allophones when the speaker has a wrong
> > implication that they are real phonemes, just because they are
> > expressed with letters.
> 
> It's one thing if you're trying to teach someone to speak the language, 
> with all the various grammatical forms; it's another if you're teaching 
> a foreigner with no aspirations for more to pronounce one name correctly 
> in his own language. An English speaker is perfectly capable of 
> pronouncing final /v/, but a Russian is not, so I wouldn't teach my 
> American colleagues to do something the Russian cannot.
> 
> О вкусе, конечно, не спорят...
> 
> -- 
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> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
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