быbefore or after verb

Stephanie Briggs sdsures at GMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 15 15:53:34 UTC 2010


There's a construction (Golosa 2 again? maybe V Puti!) where you put бы
after the verb, and the way I memorized it was as follows:

*Verb....бы....rest of sentence. *

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2010/9/15 Brewer, Michael <brewerm at u.library.arizona.edu>

> If you put the subject after the verb or remove it entirely (so it is just
> assumed), бы would have to come after the verb though, right?
>
> Michael Brewer
> University of Arizona Libraries
> brewerm at u.library.arizona.edu
>
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> I was taught to place it before the verb. Я бы хотела... I believe the
> relevant examples are in Golosa Book 2.
>
> PS: is there a second edition of Golosa book 2 out there? I knew there was
> a
> second edition for the first one.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> 2010/9/15 Anne Fisher <anne.o.fisher at gmail.com>
>
> > Hello Mark,
> >
> > If you are looking at the question from a descriptive rather than a
> > proscriptive stance, then here is one well-known example to tally on
> > the side of "verb-by" placement: in The Twelve Chairs, Ostap Bender
> > says wistfully, "Nabil by ia tebe rylo, tol'ko Zaratustra ne
> > pozvoliaiet."
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Annie
> >
> >
> > 2010/9/15 Mark Kingdom <k2kingdom at gmail.com>:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I wrote the following sentence to a Russian friend of mine:
> > >
> > > Я купил бы эту вещь, но у меня нет денег.
> > >
> > > She replied, (quoting) "...using бы after the verb is lazy, as if you
> are
> > > giving yourself time to think of an excuse."
> > >
> > > She says it is better to use бы before the verb: Я бы купил эту вещь,
> но
> > у
> > > меня нет денег.
> > >
> > > I was taught that you can say it either way. What *is* the difference
> in
> > > placement? Do you agree with my friend's statement?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
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