бы before or after verb / быт ь/ complex sentences

[John Langran]

But бы cannot be placed before быть, I suppose:

Он был бы рад, в огонь и в дым,
за вас погибнуть дважды...

What I am not sure of is whether the order is possibly optional in the 
second part of a complex sentence with two "бы" s?
Если бы она не вышда за него, она вышла бы за другого.
or
Если бы она не вышда за него, она бы вышла за другого.

John Langran
www.ruslan.co.uk



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephanie Briggs" <sdsures at GMAIL.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] бы before or after verb


I was taught to place it before the verb. Я бы хотела... I believe the
relevant examples are in Golosa Book 2.

PS: is there a second edition of Golosa book 2 out there? I knew there was a
second edition for the first one.



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2010/9/15 Anne Fisher <anne.o.fisher at gmail.com>

> Hello Mark,
>
> If you are looking at the question from a descriptive rather than a
> proscriptive stance, then here is one well-known example to tally on
> the side of "verb-by" placement: in The Twelve Chairs, Ostap Bender
> says wistfully, "Nabil by ia tebe rylo, tol'ko Zaratustra ne
> pozvoliaiet."
>
> All the best,
>
> Annie
>
>
> 2010/9/15 Mark Kingdom <k2kingdom at gmail.com>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I wrote the following sentence to a Russian friend of mine:
> >
> > Я купил бы эту вещь, но у меня нет денег.
> >
> > She replied, (quoting) "...using бы after the verb is lazy, as if you 
> > are
> > giving yourself time to think of an excuse."
> >
> > She says it is better to use бы before the verb: Я бы купил эту вещь, но
> у
> > меня нет денег.
> >
> > I was taught that you can say it either way. What *is* the difference in
> > placement? Do you agree with my friend's statement?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mark
> >
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