Teffi - theatrical terminology

[Robert Chandler]

Dear Francoise,

Thank you very much indeed for this - I am kicking myself for not having thought of the possibility of "Theatre for Itself".  That seems a much more striking translation, and more in keeping with the rather wild tone of this paragraph.  So I think that is what I will go for, unless anyone presents overwhelming arguments to the contrary.

As so often happens, I had got so locked into one problem - Meyerhold and his triangle - that I hadn't been giving any real thought to the other problems!

All the best,

Robert

On 23 Feb 2014, at 23:44, Francoise Rosset <frosset at wheatonma.edu> wrote:

> This is a fascinating translation issue.
> 
> Unfortunately, I cannot go into Evreinov from here the way I'd like to to properly address this (so I could be wrong ...), but is it not true that the phrase "teatr dlia sebia" can be interpreted as two different concepts, "theatre for oneself/theself" and "theatre for its own sake?"  In that case, Robert, you have yet another complication.
> 
> Those may be different concepts to us but in Evreinov they seem to dovetail, and either way they have to do with rejecting old theatre conventions. 
> 
> Here are tidbits from two different books that address this, and translate the term differently:
> Russian Literature, Modernism and the Visual Arts:
> http://books.google.bt/books?id=APl7vHoA04YC&pg=PA154&lpg=PA154&dq=Evreinov+theatre+of+the+self&source=bl&ots=tuFZ6ciRRB&sig=Z-Xo4zWkj9-X8xGC2AenUZkKXtk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=noQKU9ztCseG0AXCpoHwDQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Evreinov%20theatre%20of%20the%20self&f=false
> Semiotics of Drama and Theatre
> http://books.google.bt/books?id=tb_WqTc5t8gC&pg=PT242&lpg=PT242&dq=Evreinov+theatre+of+the+self&source=bl&ots=kPpZeIL3nK&sig=WIKftkU1jsG_r_zMelVMwwxVMPM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=noQKU9ztCseG0AXCpoHwDQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Evreinov%20theatre%20of%20the%20self&f=false
> 
> Best,
> -FR
> 
> -- 
> Françoise Rosset
> Chair, Russian and Russian Studies
> Spring 2014: Director of Wheaton in Bhutan program, Thimphu, Bhutan
> Wheaton College, Norton MA 02766
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