David Kaufman dvklinguist2003 at
Mon Nov 22 18:24:12 UTC 2004

Is it not possible, however, that Koasati, Ofo, and Biloxi borrowed this term from Iroquoian Cherokee?  Otherwise, where did K, O and B get their words, which don't match other Siouan or Muskogean terms?  Borrowing would be especially understandable (I think) between Cherokee, Koasati, and Ofo which were geographically fairly close, although I'm not sure why Biloxi would have gotten it when it didn't affect any of the Muskogean languages down south in that region, and Biloxi is farther from Cherokee than the others.


"R. Rankin" <rankin at> wrote:
>>From Wally's and David's postings, it looks as though the Cherokee form isn't a
part of the SE set after all. Just the forms with initial /t/ or /d/. I had
thought maybe Cherokee had assibilated a /t/ in their form, but it's likely part
of a larger Iroquoian cognate set, and perhaps part of the affricate and high
front vowel sound symbolism discussed by Sapir in his journal of psychology
paper and rediscovered by Greenberg later and published in the Stanford U.
Working Papers in Linguistic Universals about 30 yrs. ago. Bob

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