Sunrise query...writing one symbol in front of another

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Wed Jul 6 14:42:06 UTC 2005

SignWriting List
July 6, 2005

Hello Kimberley and Charles -
Why don't you re-add the sign again yourself? Re-write it  
yourself...SignPuddle is not a published dictionary - it is a place  
for us to play with writing, and for learning how to write signs, so  
if there is a sign that you want to add, add it! And if there is a  
double up, that is ok too...And if you delete a sign by mistake, you  
can re-write it yourself and add it again...that will be good  
practice for you...So you did nothing wrong and you are an editor and  
can add signs and subtract signs, so you can fix it!

And I do not understand why Charles can't do that  
too...Charles...have you found your password yet? I can send you an  
invitation to establish a new password...I will do that next message.  
Look for a message privately that invites you to become an editor of  
the ASL dictionary...

I am truly deluged with work and I am so tired and in pain at times  
that makes it hard for me to use a mouse or type, so it is necessary  
that you become as independent as possible!

Val ;-)


On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:15 AM, Kimberley A. Shaw wrote:

Hello all:
I like the simplified spelling; very much like what I was originally
"Sunrise" looks great on SignPuddle now (will the equivalent version of
"sunset" be joining it?). However ... I feel horrible for making
"sunset_4" disappear while trying to rename it, and so can somebody who
knows how, please put it back? It looks like this:

Thank you for all the coaching, Val!
Kim from Boston

sw-l at on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 1:56 PM -0500

> SignWriting List
> July 5th, 2005
> Hello Everyone!
> I hope you are enjoying July!
> When writing one symbol in front of, or behind the other, there are
> two ways to write it...the detailed way, and the simplified way...
> 1. Detailed spellings use the Surface Symbols, which Charles has
> already shown you.
> 2. Simplified spellings, for everyday use, do not need the Surface
> Symbols. Instead, the symbol that is in front has a slight white halo
> or border around it so it looks like it is in front of the other
> one...Plus the white part of the palm facing for the hand in front
> does not show the lines for the arrows going through it...Writing
> this by hand is easier than by computer at the moment...A person can
> easily become skilled at writing this by hand.
> By computer, in SignPuddle, Steve gave us a Place Over Button to do
> this for us automatically, but I have to re-enter many of the symbols
> in the IMWA to make the button you can see that I am not
> done with the IMWA...
> So I constructed the sign for Sunrise in SignPuddle from little lines
> instead, without using the Place Over button for now...Take a look at
> two spellings for Sunrise in ASL...the second one is the simplified
> spelling which I just entered...

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