another weirdly generalized "ironically"
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Tue Jul 12 14:58:01 UTC 2005
I'm going to narrow my proposed definition of "ironically" to "interestingly, in regard to the subject at hand; moreover."
There has to be some connection between the "ironic" observation and what's just been said. E.g.,
*Ironically, Carson City is the capital of Nevada.
That would seem to be impossible as a conversation opener. But it should be perfectly apt (in the Pickwickian sense) as a follow-up to another speaker's remark that "Johnny Carson was my favorite TV host."
JL
"Mark A. Mandel" <mamandel at LDC.UPENN.EDU> wrote:
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Larry notes:
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In trying to come up with a non-baseball analogy, I came up with this:
"I forgot to bring my umbrella to work with me today, and ironically
enough it rained."
Even "coincidentally" or "curiously enough" doesn't work as a
paraphrase here. Maybe "predictably" would work instead, but that
doesn't seem particularly ironic. It seems to me that Cano hitting a
game-winning home run would have been a better example of irony.
<<<
Trying to think of what I would use in such circumstances, I came up with
several non-adverbial parentheticals --
"... and wouldn't you know it, it rained."
"... naturally ..."
"... of course ..."
-- all of which , or at least the last two, are used ironically here.
mark by hand
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