"Goodfellas," the book and the movie
Jonathan Lighter
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Tue Aug 29 18:20:09 UTC 2006
A guy in grad school used to say, "Oh, well. Lose some, lose some more."
JL
Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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When I couldn't locate my copy of the book under the title,
"Goodfellas," it slowly dawned on me that I had blundered. Oh, well.
It was my first mistake since the last one. You can't win 'em all, to
coin a phrase. :-(
Do you think that's funny?!
-Wilson
On 8/29/06, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:19:56AM -0500, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC wrote:
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> > "Goodfellas" (movie) was based on a book called "Wiseguy" by
> > Nicholas Pileggi. I'm pretty sure I remember reading that
> > the movie wasn't also called "Wiseguy" because there was TV
> > series of that name on the air at that time. So they
> > changed the word to "goodfellas". It was made up for the
> > movie.
>
> I had meant to point this out in my original post, but
> actually, as the OED entry shows, J. D. Pistone's _Donnie
> Brasco_ does contain a clear example of _good fellow_ (thus
> spelled) in this sense.
>
> 1987 J. D. PISTONE Donnie Brasco xvii. 310 Was Anthony Mirra a
> wiseguy then?.. If Mirra wasn't a good fellow at the time you
> was there, his argument is no good.
>
> It does seem, from Amazon searching, that no form of "goodfella"
> appears in Pileggi's 1985 _Wiseguys_, though.
>
> Jesse Sheidlower
> OED
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-Wilson
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Everybody says, "How hard it is that we have to die"ââa strange
complaint to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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