MILF (was Re: change from the bottom up)

[Wilson Gray]

Well, can you say something like, "[1]That shit was a most
motherfucker!" without having to compose it, i.e. automatically, and
without any doubt that your hearers will understand completely? If you
can, then "motherfucker" is an integral part of your speech, in the
sense that I mean. As The Meters once put it, "[2]That shit be fire!"

[1]That was really interesting!
[2]That's (usually) attention-getting!

-Wilson

On 4/30/07, Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >BTW, has "motherfucker," while i was sleeping, become the integral part of
> >white speeech that it is of black speech.
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> I would think so. I've never thought of "motherfucker" as anything but
> native. Not sure what you mean by "integral."
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> Scot LaFaive
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> >From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
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> >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:30:44 -0400
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> >Well, she was known as "Stifler's Mom." BTW, has "motherfucker," while
> >i was sleeping, become the integral part of white speeech that it is
> >of black speech, such that it would serve as the basis for new slang?
> >
> >-Wilson
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> >On 4/30/07, Baker, John <JMB at stradley.com> wrote:
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> > > Subject:      Re: MILF (was Re: change from the bottom up)
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> > >         American Pie, the 1999 movie that brought "milf" to a broad
> > > audience, used "mom," but most of the pre-American Pie cites on Google
> > > Groups use "mother."
> > >
> > >
> > > John Baker
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> > > From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf
> > > Of James Harbeck
> > > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:15 PM
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> > > Subject: Re: MILF (was Re: change from the bottom up)
> > >
> > > >For me, I think I've heard MILF spoken out almost exclusively as "mom"
> > > >not "mother."
> > >
> > > I find this interesting. It's not my experience -- rather the opposite.
> > > And I had always assumed that it was a phrase modelled on the venerable
> > > "motherfucker."
> > >
> > > A Google poll gets me 32,500 for full-phrase "mother i'd like to fuck"
> > > and 11,700 for "mom i'd like to fuck"; {"mom i'd like to" MILF} gets
> > > 13,800, and {"mother i'd like to" MILF} gets 32,700, meaning that there
> > > are more instances where the vulgarity is left out of the explanation
> > > that use "mom" than that use "mother", but otherwise "mother" is roughly
> > > triple "mom".
> > >
> > > James Harbeck.
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