Roasteria

Marc Velasco marcjvelasco at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jul 14 14:35:58 UTC 2008


So is laundromat originally from the "o-matic" line?  laundry + automatic =
laundromat(ic).  or, if verbs are your fancy, launder + automatic =
laundromat(ic).

I vaguely recall various constructions of "-o-matic" (google suggestions
slice-o-matic, brush-o-matic, etc), which would suggest that laundromat is
an abbreviation.

..

a question on pronunciation: is it gasetEria or gaseterIa (<-- capital "I")
?





On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> Then there's also the generalized -(t)eria suffix that used to be
> much more productive than it is now.  Southern California in the 60s
> was filled with launderterias, gaseterias, and the like.  There was a
> least one paper exploring these formations in American Speech, and
> "cafeteria" was usually taken to be the model.  In principle
> "roasteria" could be a blend of "roaster" with "-(t)eria", but the
> register or level would be wrong, in that the -(t)eria formations
> emphasized cheapness, ease, and uniformity (a bit like current "Mc-",
> but without the trademark battles), while roasterias are presumably
> not striving for that image.
>
> LH
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> At 2:22 AM -0400 7/14/08, Marc Velasco wrote:
> >Italian as in pizzeria ?  Likely, I was thinking mainly of the
> >coffee-growing countries they might purchase from.  This actually seems
> more
> >like a branding thing... cafes sell coffee... we sell _roast_.
> >
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> >On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
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> >>  That's a possibility I hadn't thought of. Given the power of Italian
> >>  in the espresso domain, though, my money remains on Italiano :) BB
> >>
> >>  On Jul 13, 2008, at 10:58 PM, Marc Velasco wrote:
> >>
> >>  > Could be from the Spanish too (which probably has similar
> construction
> >>  > rules).
> >>  >
> >>  > shoe : shoestore
> >>  >
> >>  > zapato : zapateria
> >>  >
> >>  > maybe they sell 'roast' ?
> >>  >
> >>  > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Benjamin Barrett <
> gogaku at ix.netcom.com
> >>  > >
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> >>  >> Not found in the ADS4 or the CAE.
> >>  >>
> >>  >> "We bring people together for conversation and coffee and food,"
> said
> >>  >> McConnell, whose cafe empire includes a roasteria on Capitol Hill,
> >>  >> four coffee shops in Seattle and one in Olympia.
> >>  >>
> >>  >> by Melissa Allison and Amy Martinez
> >>  >>
> >>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/retailreport/2008045842_retailrepor=
> >>  > t11.html
> >>  >>
> >>  >> McConnell is part owner of Caff=E9 Vita Coffee Roasting. Later in
> the
> >>  >> article is a bit about Espresso Vivace Roasteria, which is probably
> >>  >> where they got the word from. Ava Roastaria uses the word as well,
> >>  >> probably from roaster + -ia as Italian does not seem to use this
> >>  >> word.
> >>  >> BB
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