FW: The first French "restaurat" was in New York, in 1821? -- (message from Barry Popik)

[Cohen, Gerald Leonard]

Below is a message sent by Barry to several ads-l members and which I now share with the entire list.
On a general note, it's always good to be reminded ofo the great value of Barry's website.

G. Cohen

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From: Barry Popik [mailto:bapopik at aol.com]
Sent: Wed 2/3/2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: The first French "restaurat" was in New York, in 1821?


I posted this here and OED doesn't record it?
--Barry Popik
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Subject:         Restaurant (1766)
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   OED and Merriam-Webster have 1827 for "restaurant," although OED's entry notes that it started in Paris in 1765.  There's been a new book on the subject that I'll have to check.

BOSWELL
ON THE GRAND TOUR
ITALY, CORSICA, AND FRANCE
1765-1766
edited by Frank Brady and Frederick A. Pottle,
Yale University
McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc., NY
1955

Pg. 257 (1766, THURSDAY 2 JANUARY):
   A restaurant keeper just by Le Blanc's furnished me dinner and half a bottle of wine for three livres, and Etienne, my _valet de place_, was very active and had the name of "l'eveille."
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On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 11:08:19AM -0500, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> (Shades of "Ratatouille"!)
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> For "restaurant", the OED's earliest citation is 1827.  (Still a "2nd
> edition 1989" entry, so the gnomes likely have mined to a lower
> stratum by now.  And perhaps to be updated shortly; in December the
> "revised range" arrived at "reputeless.")

We'd mined back to 1823, so this is still two years better. Thanks!

Jesse Sheidlower
OED

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