my bad

Fri May 7 21:19:34 UTC 2010

Thanks, Wilson.  If memory serves (ha!), long ago doesn't seem all that
blissful. Much like today, just more time, less to do, and fewer funny
symptoms.

OTOH,  perhaps 'twere paradise enow - relatively speaking.

JL

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Jon writes,
>
> "Constant readers will observe that this isn't the first time that one of
> my
> recollections of minute diachronic detail has proved to be mistaken."
>
> Check yourself, my brother! Isn't any big thing. If I couldn't call
> upon my memory, it almost wouldn't be *anything* that I would be
> knowing. My recall of words and phrases always be correct, if can't
> anybody *prove* it wrong. But wouldn't anybody be getting a chance to
> prove my powers of recall weak, if I didn't be posting from memory!
>
> Sometimes, I do be double-checking, though, prior to posting. But only
> when *I* think that I may be wrong.
>
> OTOH, doesn't be anything wrong behind retracting an assertion or a
> claim, if, by chance, it does be shown that one be done posted an
> error in error.
>
> Cf., e.g. the undocumented and probably undocumentable PHATT that
> still the hands of memory be weaving, a blissful dream of long ago
> (sixty years).
>
> -Wilson
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > I don't have a copy of the book either, so I can't vouch for what may be
> in
> > the main text. OED dates its Wielgus & Wolff citation to "1986."  But it
> > looks as though it comes not from the _In-Your-Face Basketball Book_
> (1980)
> > but from a sequel.
> >
> > Somehow, during the discussion, the identity of which "Wielgus & Wolff"
> boo=
> > k
> > we were talking about became confused. I apologize if I aided or created
> th=
> > e
> > confusion.
> >
> > Constant readers will observe that this isn't the first time that one of
> my
> > recollections of minute diachronic detail has proved to be mistaken.  I
> wil=
> > l
> > bear this in mind to avoid future, bitter humiliations.
> >
> > At least there *is* a 1980 W & W book about pick-up basketball with a
> slang
> > glossary in it.  For this I am thankful.
> >
> > (An oversize paperback with large print and many illustrations, I hope?)
> >
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jesse Sheidlower <jester at panix.com>
> wrote:
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> >> I've never seen any edition of the book; I was going on the
> >> assertion that it was in the 1980 ed.
> >>
> >> Jesse Sheidlower
> >> OED
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 02:19:20PM -0400, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
> >> > Jon,
> >> >
> >> > I have a copy of the 1980 edition of this book, and in a quick glance
> I
> >> don't see "my bad" in the glossary.  Do you remember seeing it in the
> >> glossary or somewhere else in the book?
> >> >
> >> > Fred
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: American Dialect Society [ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
> >> Jonathan Lighter [wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM]
> >> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:13 PM
> >> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >> > Subject: Re: my bad
> >> >
> >> > Jesse,
> >> >
> >> > WorldCat dates Wielgus & Wolff's _In-Your-Face Basketball Book_ to
> 1980=
> > .
> >> >
> >> > That's where I saw it. I didn't include "my bad" in the B's because
> the=
> > re
> >> > was only one cite and it sounded too moronicever to catch on.
> >> >
> >> > Never say, "too moronic."
> >> >
> >> > I trust all is well in the Large Apple.
> >> >
> >> > Jon
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Jesse Sheidlower <jester at panix.com>
> >> wrote:
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> >> > > Subject:      Re: my bad
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > >
> >> > > Jon,
> >> > >
> >> > > What's the 1980 example? I can't recall having seen a print
> >> > > example that early, and if it's in the archives, I've missed
> >> > > it there too....
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jesse Sheidlower
> >> > > OED
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:37:27AM -0400, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >> > > > When this came up last year people had trouble finding a still
> >> earlier
> >> > > > discussion in the Archives.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now I can't find last year's discussion.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Except in my mailbox.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "My bad" was print in 1980, reported as being a common term among
> >> mostly
> >> > > > inner-city teenagers in pick-up basketball games. It took quite a
> f=
> > ew
> >> > > > years to catch on in the media.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I didn't come across another ex. of "my bad" until 1994-95, when
> it
> >> began
> >> > > to
> >> > > > become common. If I had, I'd have made a note of it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > JL
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Paul Frank <
> >> paulfrank at post.harvard.edu
> >> > > >wrote:
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> >> > > > > When did people start saying "my bad"? I never heard it in high
> >> school
> >> > > > > in the late 70s in England and in university in the early 80s in
> >> > > > > England. And I can't really remember when I first heard it in
> gra=
> > d
> >> > > > > school in the U.S., but it was probably in the early 90s. Or
> mayb=
> > e
> >> I
> >> > > > > wasn't listening and people have been saying it for centuries.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Paul
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Paul Frank
> >> > > > > Translator
> >> > > > > German, French, Chinese > English
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