"put the 'Kibosh on 'em" (antedating, 1834)

[Wilson Gray]

These forms are also features of other non-standard BrE dialects. The
fact that we have _Smith_ and not _Smif_ opens the possibility that
the eye-dialect is not necessarily meant to represent Cockney.

-Wilson

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu> wrote:
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> Forms such as "vich" for "which" or "vork" for "work" are a feature of =
> Cockney speech. They are not necessarily eastern European/German.
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> Gerald Cohen
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>  Original message from Sam Clements, Thu 5/20/2010 8:04 PM
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> Notice the same pattern of an eastern European/German dialect being =
> used.  "which=3Dvich." and
> so on and so on.
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> Sam Clements
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> From: "Stephen Goranson" <goranson at DUKE.EDU>
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> Subject: "put the 'Kibosh on 'em" (antedating, 1834)
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>> Charles Dickens wrote "...put the kibosk on her, Mary" in 1836.
>> Here is an apparent antedating.
>> Observer [London], Sunday Nov. 30, 1834, p. 4 col. 4.
>> Retirement of the Late Ministry Explained
>> ....Mr. Dyer put the moderate fine of one shilling and costs on both
>> defendants-- "Ah!" said Smith, as he left the office, this here hact =
> vos
>> the vork of the Vigs, and now the Duke of Vellington as put the =
> 'Kibosh'
>> on 'em, vich they never would have got if they hadn't passed it; =
> that's
>> vat floored 'em.
>>
>> Stephen Goranson
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