1947 citing in Archie Comic of "butthole." What did it mean?
paul johnson
paulzjoh at MTNHOME.COM
Sun Apr 29 16:47:19 UTC 2012
Paul johnson
It was a popular story in boot camp, in San Diego, in 1950. But there
were a lot of popular stories back then.
On 4/29/2012 11:42 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> Cultural mystery: given its seeming frequency, why are there so few
> references in print to this practice, particularly in the twentieth
> century? With 16,000,000 WW2 veterans in 1945, and thousands interviewed
> or writing their own accounts, why does GB seem to show only a dozen refs.?
> Censorship couldn't have been an issue.
>
> I searched GB for "cigarette + hole + sergeant." Likewise in
> NewspaperArchive. (Most hits were irrelevant to the topic.)
>
> Some may recall my posts of yesteryear querying why "Yeah" (and spelling
> variants) hardly ever appears in print before ca1900. There's no such
> problem with the far more notoriously "illiterate" _ain't_.
>
>
>
> JL
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Gerald Cohen<gcohen at mst.edu> wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: 1947 citing in Archie Comic of "butthole." What did it
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>> My campus has an eminent military historian (Dr. John McManus) who
>> specializes in WWII, and I asked him whether he ever came across
>> mention of the cigarette internment/funeral in the course of his
>> extensive conversations with WWII veterans.
>>
>> With his permission I now share his reply below.
>>
>> Gerald Cohen
>> Missouri University of Science and Technology
>> Rolla, MO 65409
>>
>> [Reply]:
>>
>> Jerry,
>> I have heard reference to the six by six punishment many times. This
>> punishment was standard in those days for a multiplicity of infractions,
>> not
>> just the littering of a company street with cigarette butts. In fact, this
>> practice became infamous to later generations of basic trainees since by
>> then the Army had discarded it as too draconian. I must admit that I have
>> never heard the word "butthole" used in this context though! My suspicion
>> is that by the time I spoke to WWII veterans many years later--or read
>> their
>> recollections--they all knew that the word had a much different connotation
>> and thus did not use it in describing the six by six treatment.
>> [....]
>>
>> John
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