/Erjudait/

[Tom Zurinskas]

For me "erudite" would be ~airuediet (~air as in air, ~ue as in "true", ~ie as in "pie")
But thefreedictionary.com has ~airyuediet for UK, USA, and Icon  
 
Also for "Coupon" 
USA  it's ~kyuepaan  (~aa as in "Saab")
UK it's ~kyuepaun   (~au as in "auger")
icon it's ~kuepaan
 
For "Boston"  all three have ~Baustin   (UK glottalizes the "t")  No ~Baastin
It's always been ~Baustin and ~kuepaan for me.

Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk


 
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> Pedro,
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> I thought of that, and for me, and the apparently vanishingly few
> others who don't palatalize here,
> the /r/ is ambisyllabic while for those who do it's coda on the first
> syllable. Which is the reverse of what makes sense--and what you
> said. The other analysis may be that with coda /r/ the second
> syllable starts with a tense /u/ and gets a palatal onset like other
> initial tense /u/ in English, e.g., use, unite, Urals, etc.
> 
> Herb
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:39 PM, V <raindoctor at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Palatal glide insertion depends on how the word is syllabified. For
> > instance, men-u vs. av-e-nue. In menu, there is /j/; however in avenue,
> > there is no /j/. The condition is that both the alveolar and /u/ have to be
> > part of the same syllable.
> >
> > This is operating in erudite: er-u-dite
> >
> > Pedro V
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Here in the Midwest I've been noticing local TV newsreaders
> >> pronouncing "erudite" as /Erjudait/, inserting a palatal glide between
> >> /r/ and /u/. I don't know if this pronunciation is found in Britain,
> >> but the OED gives the pronunciation /=CB=88=C9=9Br=C9=99da=C9=AAt/. I do=
> > n't hear the
> >> glide insertion in words like "rude" or "ruse," and I suspect that
> >> /Erjudait/ is simply hypercorrection. It just seems odd that these
> >> speakers don't insert /j/ between other alveolars and /u/.
> >>
> >> Herb
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