fapp and phallologocentrism

Amy West medievalist at W-STS.COM
Fri Sep 12 12:08:48 UTC 2014


On 9/12/14, 12:00 AM, ADS-L automatic digest system wrote:
> Date:    Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:45:56 -0400
> From:    Wilson Gray<hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: fapp and phallologocentrism
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM, W Brewer<brewerwa at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> BTW, is the question re *male* terms for female masturbation?
Not necessarily. The thought started out specifically about the 
onomatopoeic origin of "fap," and how that had to be gender-specific 
(just because of the machinery) and then it expanded to "What about 
female masturbation?"

I think that's a really important corollary: *who* talks about female 
masturbation? Everybody? Males? Females? Nobody?
> *All* the terms that I know for this activity are used only by guys, 
> in my experience, with a single exception: "jill off." I came across 
> it first in a feminist essay somewhere - Widener Library? - somewhen - 
> the '70's? - and entirely missed the connection with "jack off" till 
> *very* recently, about 2010, after I'd come across the term here and 
> there on the Web. I haven't checked either Google or the UD. 

> Vo women even *need* a special slang term for masturbation?
Not necessarily, but again, given that some terms arise from the 
physical action ("fap", "jerk off"), because the physical action is 
going to be different, I was wondering if there were in fact different 
terms. Or if it just wasn't talked about.
> Which reminds me, there's the semi-unisex - I don't know whether women 
> use it, but I've come across used by men to refer to the relevant 
> activity, irrespective of the sex of the actor - clio, "bate." 
Right, and as has been pointed out, "jerk off" has broadened to 
encompass both male and female; will "fap" do the same?

---Amy West

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