fapp and phallologocentrism
Amy West
medievalist at W-STS.COM
Fri Sep 12 12:08:48 UTC 2014
On 9/12/14, 12:00 AM, ADS-L automatic digest system wrote:
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:45:56 -0400
> From: Wilson Gray<hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: fapp and phallologocentrism
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM, W Brewer<brewerwa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> BTW, is the question re *male* terms for female masturbation?
Not necessarily. The thought started out specifically about the
onomatopoeic origin of "fap," and how that had to be gender-specific
(just because of the machinery) and then it expanded to "What about
female masturbation?"
I think that's a really important corollary: *who* talks about female
masturbation? Everybody? Males? Females? Nobody?
> *All* the terms that I know for this activity are used only by guys,
> in my experience, with a single exception: "jill off." I came across
> it first in a feminist essay somewhere - Widener Library? - somewhen -
> the '70's? - and entirely missed the connection with "jack off" till
> *very* recently, about 2010, after I'd come across the term here and
> there on the Web. I haven't checked either Google or the UD.
> Vo women even *need* a special slang term for masturbation?
Not necessarily, but again, given that some terms arise from the
physical action ("fap", "jerk off"), because the physical action is
going to be different, I was wondering if there were in fact different
terms. Or if it just wasn't talked about.
> Which reminds me, there's the semi-unisex - I don't know whether women
> use it, but I've come across used by men to refer to the relevant
> activity, irrespective of the sex of the actor - clio, "bate."
Right, and as has been pointed out, "jerk off" has broadened to
encompass both male and female; will "fap" do the same?
---Amy West
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