[Ads-l] "daisy" old or British for "doozy"?

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Mar 8 16:46:23 UTC 2016


> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Paul A Johnston, Jr <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU> wrote:
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> Add to the controversy that the old Brooklyn Dodger pitcher Dazzy Vance was named that because he used the term "That's a dazzy" (=daisy, supposedly through his accent, though i don't see how an Iowan would say that), referring to an extra-good play.  "Doozy" can certainly be used like that.

Well, not everyone is convinced, in particular the SABR-metricians:

"Arthur Vance had earned the nickname Dazzy for the dazzling fastball he had shown as a teenage semipro in rural Nebraska."
http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/5c1fec75

Was the coinage of "Dazzy", whatever its origin, a partial inspiration for "Dizzy" Dean's nickname (and hence for his brother "Daffy" Dean's)?  The three of them were apparently teammates for a while on the Gashouse Gang (30s St. Louis Cardinals), along with slugger "Ducky" Medwick.  

LH

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>> More or less, but the relationship isn't clear. See HDAS.
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>> JL
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>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:51 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Might "daisy" have been used years ago, or be/have been British
>>> usage, for
>>> what we now call a "doozy"?
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