[Ads-l] more nominalized adjs.

Fri Nov 25 19:25:38 UTC 2016

Would "on the cheap" be another nominalized adjective as the object of a
preposition?

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 1:23 PM Margaret Winters <mewinters at wayne.edu>
wrote:

> French is not quite the same since pretty much any adjective can be
> nominalized by using it with a determiner of some kind.
>
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> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:27 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: more nominalized adjs.
>
> The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly?
>
> > On Nov 24, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
> >
> > Le Rouge et le Noir?  The Quick and the Dead?
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> >      From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ADS-L] more nominalized adjs.
> >
> > Combining to suggest a spinoff from _The Young and the Restless_:  _The
> Complicated and the Crazy_.
> >
> >> On Nov 23, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> _The Young and the Restless_:
> >>
> >> "People take time out from the crazy in their lives."
> >>
> >> JL
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> United Healthcare:
> >>>
> >>> "I'm done with complicated!"
> >>>
> >>> JL
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 2016 _Supergirl_ (CW TV): Hey, what's with the grumpy?
> >>>>
> >>>> JL
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Laurence Horn <
> laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yup, more subjects.  I do have the vague sense that these are (all)
> >>>>> somehow a bit metalinguistic, and that BCBL questions, for example,
> aren't
> >>>>> entirely synonymous with "What does fearlessness look like?" or "Does
> >>>>> fearlessness age?",  but I won't try to propose an analysis.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dispositive Blue Cross Blue Shield ad:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "What does fearless look like? Does fearless age?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> JL
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Laurence Horn <
> laurence.horn at yale.edu
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
> >>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sonic:  "Nothing tastes better than free!"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am starting to think these nominalized forms occur only in
> objective
> >>>>>>>> positions. True?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I don't think so, at least if we count equative structures:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Crazy is fine. I can go for crazy."
> >>>>>>> "Cozy is what I like."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Rinse and repeat for other nouned adjectives.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LH
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
> >>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Trailer for the new Warren Beatty movie: "If you're crazy, I want
> >>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>> crazy!"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> JL
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> >>>>>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The ad says that to make the Duluth Trading Fire Hose Shirt
> Jac,
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>> took
> >>>>>>>>>>> "tough,  toasty, and some cozy."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Another example, from the NYT Online:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "The hatred toward her would have bloomed forth unchecked: more
> >>>>>>>>>> obstruction, more mudslinging, more investigations, _more vile_
> >>>>> would
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> been in store for her."
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> -Wilson
> >>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange
> >>>>> complaint to
> >>>>>>>>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> >>>>>>>>>> -Mark Twain
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> >>>> truth."
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> truth."
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> truth."
> >>
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