[Algonquiana] Algonquian terms for Siouan peoples
Kees van Kolmeschate
cvkolmes at hetnet.nl
Sun Jan 17 00:40:54 UTC 2016
Hi Ryan,
Continuing Arok’s reply, I would say that in “Ouachipouenne” “ch” represents English “sh” rather than “ch”.
Cree “wâti”, cave, den, corresponds to Ojibwe “waazh”. (PA *wa:ši, pl. *wa:θali).
Though “ouachipouenne” looks like Ojibwe Waazhibwaan, I do not find this word meaning “Mandan”.
gr, Kees
From: Ryan Kasak
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 9:05 AM
To: ALGONQUIANA at listserv.linguistlist.org
Subject: [Algonquiana] Algonquian terms for Siouan peoples
Dear all,
I've just posed this question on the Siouan listserv, and thought I'd ask the same here. I'm looking for names for Siouan peoples (specifically the Mandan) in Algonquian languages.
For some varieties of Cree, we see something like pwâta for the Lakota/Dakota. For Ojibwa, I've found bwaan for that same group. In the 1730s when the French trader Pierre Gaultier de Varennes, sieur de La Vérendrye encountered the Mandan, his Cree interpreter called them Ouachipouennes [sic], meaning something like "Sioux who go underground," in reference to the earth lodges in which they lived. Is this term still used in Cree to refer to the Mandan? What about other Siouan groups like the Hidatsa or the Crow?
The online Cheyenne dictionary gives Tsé-heše'émȧheonėstse "one who has a dirt house" for the Mandan and Óoetane "crow person" for the Crow. These etymologies are clear. However, the etymologies of Hóheehe for the Assiniboine and Ho'óhomō'e for Lakota/Dakota are opaque to me (though they may not be opaque to someone else!).
I would welcome any input anyone might have regarding this issue.
Best,
Ryan Kasak
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