[An-lang] etymology of Malayic "kasi" ('give')

[David Gil]

Antonia,

Thanks for the clarification.  I guess it could even be that 
Appell-Warren asked her informant for the word /kasi/ 'give' but her 
informant misunderstood the question as being about /kasih/ 'love'.  
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what you find.

Best,

David


On 23/02/2015 00:05, antonia soriente wrote:
> Il 22/02/15 5:38 AM, David Gil ha scritto:
>> To return to the semantic strand of this ongoing discussion:
>>
>> By sheer coincidence, I was just browsing through a wordlist of 
>> Tidung (spoken in Tarakan, Kalimantan Utara), and the word for 'give' 
>> is given as /saiyang, /which is clearly related to the familiar Malay 
>> /sayang/ 'love'/'compassion'/'pity'.  Seems like an almost completely 
>> parallel semantic change to that which was posited by several 
>> discussants for Malay /kasi(h)/, and, in my view, the clincher for 
>> this proposed etymology.
>>
>> Appell-Warren, Laura P. (1978) "The Tarakan Dialect of the Tidung 
>> Language of East Kalimantan: Distribution and Basic Vocabulary", in 
>> A.S. Wurm and Lois Carrington eds., Second International Conference 
>> on Austronesian Linguistics: Proceedings, Pacific Linguistics C-61, 
>> 148-166.
>>
>>
>>
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> Dear David,
> I do not know Tidung well but it is indeed spoken in the area where I 
> collect my data and by a large population in Malinau, Tarakan and in 
> Kecamatan Tana Tidung and is related to other Murutic languages spoken 
> in Kalimantan and Sarawak. Many Tidung people consider themselves 
> 'orang Melayu' having embraced the Moslem religion. This means that 
> they are heavily influenced by the Malay culture and language. I have 
> checked on some wordlists and dictionaries I have (Bolongan, Murut 
> etc) and I have found nowhere the word saiyang for 'give'. It seems to 
> me that the informant associated the meaning  'affection' and 'give' 
> of the Malay kasih to his/her language. Among the many languages I 
> work on this association is not common.
> Next time I go to Tarakan, I'll make sure to check with Tidung speakers.
> Antonia
>
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> Antonia Soriente
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