More research stuff

[terry glavin]

i know a couple shakers. will ask around to see if they know of chinook
terms popping up in liturgy; as i recall from a couple of shaker services
i've attended, there were terms that could be described as "chinook"; will
advise soonest.

tg.

-glavin.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Robertson <drobert at TINCAN.TINCAN.ORG>
To: CHINOOK at LINGUIST.LDC.UPENN.EDU <CHINOOK at LINGUIST.LDC.UPENN.EDU>
Date: 16 November 1998 12:50
Subject: Re: More research stuff


>On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, David Gene Lewis wrote:
>
>> Shaker religion was spread through native communities through the use of
>> the Jargon. EELLS was know to use it, as well as Wickersham, Mann, and
>> Slocum. The sermons were conducted in Jargon in at least most
communities,
>> and there is reference to the problems of translation of Christian songs
>> into native languages.
>>
>
>I happen to be reading Myron Eells' "Indians of Puget Sound" (do I have
>the title right?) -- that big ol' book of his observations.  It's
>mentioned more than once that he was no kind of "linguist", meaning he
>couldn't for the life of him learn the native languages of the Indian
>people he was missionarizing.  *Instead*, he used the Chinook Jargon.
>
>
>>  How much was the spread of the Shaker Religion aided
>> by Chinook Jargon and how much was Chinook Jargon's (recent?) spread
aided
>> by the
>> Shaker Religion?
>
>As for the spread of the religion, let me refer again to Eells' book.  He
>gives an account of talking with the man who originally had the visions
>which were told of, spread, and formed the basis of the Shaker religion.
>He could only have talked with this (Indian) man using the Jargon, I
>reckon, and the rapid propagation of the religion could most likely have
>happened via the use of Chinook Jargon.  For the Native people to have
>used their tribal languages for this purpose would have slowed things down
>considerably, no?
>
>>
>> Does this point to the Shaker religion helping spread Jargon?
>I would love to know!
>
>Best,
>Dave