stop me if you've heard this one: maLini (fwd)

[David Robertson]

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:14:26 -0500
From: Dell Hymes <dhh4d at virginia.edu>
To: David Robertson <drobert at tincan.tincan.org>
Subject: Re: stop me if you've heard this one:  maLini

I can't judge whether or not Nootka may have contributed to the use of the
word in CJ, but certainly Chinookan did.  All the Chinookan languages,
including
those near the mouth of the Columbia, have maL as the root for words having
to do with significant bodies of water.  And -ni is a directional suffix.
The match is perfect.  No conjecture required.

>adi!  Gotcha!
>
>wek wEXt ixt chInuk kaltash-hihi ukuk -- Nope, this isn't another Chinook
>joke.  (Those of you who missed the Lu7lu in Grand Rounde also missed a
>nice round of joke-telling in Chinook.  Masi khapa Emmett!)
>
>chxi alta I was reading Edward Sapir yaXka paper "Nootka Baby Words" khapa
>the _International Journal of American Linguistics_, volume 5, number 1,
>pages 118-119.  --You follow?
>
>He mentions the word /lO:lO:/ "white man" '(often used to scare a child,
>like our "boogie man"; this word is said to imitate a white man's talk,
>and note that /l/ is not a normal Nootka sound [he said "Nootka Sound"
>:-)], though often used in songs for /n/); normal word for "white man" is
>/mamaL7nI(/ "dwelling while in motion on the water."'
>
>The /O/ above is 'backward-c', that is 'more open mid-back rounded vowel'.
>The /:/ marks vowel length.
>The /(/ is the Nootka 'pharyngeal' sound -- don't make me explain!
>
>The upshot here is, chInUk wawa <mahtlinnie>, /maLIni/, is apparently from
>Nootka.  Sources I'd read previously had indicated this as an Old Chinook
>word, not that they're necessarily authoritative.  I reckon this is
>another example of Nootka sounds having been simplified before such a word
>got adopted into Chinook Jargon?  (Still haven't read Sturtevant's or
>?Samarin's articles on "Nootka Jargon".)
>
>LaXayEm!
>Dave
>
>
>
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