the font débacle

[Ros' Haruo]

Hi, Henry, and thanks, Leanne,

I was going to reply along similar lines but Leanne said it better than I
would have.

I should add that unless the various computers (including the typically
rather unintelligent brains installed in printers) involved are in close
communication (and unimpeded communication; firewalls and what have you can
be a problem here), the font (be it Grand Ronde's or Unicode's pertinent
section) has to be installed separately on each machine. I can bring up an
Esperanto document on the screen at work, and print it out on three
different printers, and one will print it correctly, a second will print the
circumflexed letters without their circumflexes, and the third will print a
large bullet after each diacritized letter. If I print the same thing at
church, the printer there just leaves spaces where the Esperanto-specific
letters should be. If I print it at the public library, it comes out
perfect. I presume a similar variety of treatments would occur with the
Chinuk-Wawa font, and obviously at least one variant is to print "f" for
schwa.

BTW, does anybody know the status of the proposed Unicode character set for
Kamloops-wawa-pepa?

lilEnd


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>From: Leanne Riding <riding at TIMETEMPLE.COM>
>Reply-To: Leanne Riding <riding at TIMETEMPLE.COM>
>To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>Subject: About Unicode font for Ch.
>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:40:05 -0700
>
>I can elaborate on the Unicode font for those interested...
>
>Unicode fonts can contain the symbols desired, but Joe web user may still
>run into the "weird character" problem (Hey, why is every thing look like
>"???? ????"). That's because most unicode fonts contain only the lowest
>ranges of character sets. No matter what kind of font is used, Joe user
>will have to be advised he needs a font, and then be able to download and
>install it. Joe user needs to know that his web browser can be switched to
>ISO-8859-1 (basic latin) or UTF-8 (unicode) as required. Then, if the web
>page designer hasn't fuddled it up somehow, everything should look okay.
>
>An inadvertent advantage to Unicode -- when it doesn't work, the user just
>sees question marks or wierdness. They can easily tell that something's
>wrong. On the downside, they can't made heads or tails out it.
>
>In Unicode's favor, Microsoft and Apple prefer Unicode now. New Unicode
>ranges can be proposed, by the very organized and patient. A very large
>number of cool diacritical marks are already provided for, though very few
>fonts use them properly, and then only selectively.
>
>It would be great if the font scheme had gov't backing. For a type face to
>become a standard, font projects require professional organization,
>funding, and official sanction by standards-creating bodies. The reason for
>all that beurocracy is to prevent the project from caving in when funds run
>out or original creator's interests inevitably wane.
>
>It's all "Ελληνικά" to me...(a little Unicode test for you ... in
>greek).
>
>On Friday, June 11, 2004, at 12:04 , hzenk at PDX.EDU wrote:
>
>>Lilend,
>>
>>Thanks for the link.  I was wondering about how that story would come out.
>>  I'm
>>of course disappointed to see yet another debacle with our Chinuk Wawa
>>font,
>>showing the key strokes but not the symbols they're supposed to yield.
>>This
>>happens to us a LOT.  Shouldn't we perhaps devise an alternate (unicode?)
>>font
>>with comparable symbols, perhaps with a standard set of examples for
>>public
>>presentation purposes.  Henry
>
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