Chinook Jargon and environmental hazards

[Bruce, Colin]

I thought I saw mesachi paya used somewhere for 'hell'.  Similar to
Gaidhlig's "bad fire" but also a fairly good description of wild fires.
Just having a wry chuckle about that.  ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott E Tyler [mailto:s.tylermd at COMCAST.NET]
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:00 AM
To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Chinook Jargon and environmental hazards

Nice question.
Seems like forest fire might be expressed several ways:

    hiyu stik yaka miLayt skookum paya
    OR
    skookum paya okok hiyu stik
    OR
    hayas paya koopa hiyu stik
    OR
    skookum paya koopa hiyu stik

Another interesting term could be 'fire season'
    paya illahee

Another one for wild fire:
    mesachi paya
    OR
    skookum paya kakwa lemolo
    Or
    paya kakwa mesachi win' (fire storm)

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leanne Riding" <riding at TIMETEMPLE.COM>
To: <CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:20 PM
Subject: Chinook Jargon and environmental hazards


> Now that the fire season's begun again, I'm thinking about environmental
> and weather words in the old Chinook Jargon. However I know no words
> that express 'forest fire,' or other natural hazard, other than
> lightning, snow, rain, or wind. Any thoughts on how they expressed those
> things?
>
> Here's a list of a few 19th century weather-related words:
>
> Clear up, chahko klah. (Hale)
> Cole, E., cold, winter, year. (Hale)
> Cole snass (cold rain), snow. (Hale)
> Kol, winter, cold. (Demers,Blanchet,St.Onge)
> Ppes or win, soul, breath, life. (Demers,Blanchet,St.Onge)
> Sa[gh]ali pa[i]a, lightening. (Demers,Blanchet,St.Onge)
> Snas, rain. (Demers,Blanchet,St.Onge)
> Snass, J., rain. (Hale)
> Sno or t[l'k]op snas, snow. (Demers,Blanchet,St.Onge)
> Win, wind. (Demers,Blanchet,St.Onge)
> Wind, or win, E., wind, breath, life. (Hale)
>
> (PS. how are you doing, Bernard?)
>
> -- Leanne
>
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