Years in Jargon

Francisc Czobor fericzobor at YAHOO.COM
Sun Sep 14 10:08:42 UTC 2008


Hi Jeff,
 
I answer so late because I was some days in holidays with no e-mail, and back to work was very busy.
I see that the inquirer prefers the English-based orthography, but doesn't use it uniformly  - I mean he uses here "tatlum" and there "tahtlelum" for "ten".
Other remarks: 
- "ikt takamonuk" means "one hundred", to say "nine hundred" I wouldn't say "kwaist ikt takamonuk" ("nine one hundred"), but simply "kwaist takamonuk";
- "stiekin" is an unusual version for the word for "eight"; the usual form used in English-based orthography (Gibbs, Shaw, Hale, Philips) is "stotekin";
Thus, using consequently let's say Gibbs' orthography, I would write:
1986 = tahtlelum tukamonuk pee kwaist tukamonuk pee stotekin tahtlelum pee taghum,
or:
tahtlelum pee kwaist tukamonuk pee stotekin tahtlelum pee taghum ("nineteen hundred eighty six")
or:
thousand pee kwaist tukamonuk pee stotekin tahtlelum pee taghum (the English word "thousand", although not in Gibbs, is mentioned in other sources as being used in CJ; in shorthand it was transcribed as [tawsan]).
 
Klahowya,
Francisc
 


--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Jeffrey Kopp <jeffreykopp at ATT.NET> wrote:

From: Jeffrey Kopp <jeffreykopp at ATT.NET>
Subject: Years in Jargon
To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 4:03 AM

Another "please translate" request, this one apparently from a college
student (harvard.edu email).

Thanks.

Jeff

>I am wondering if it is possible to translate into chinook language the
year 1986 & the year 2002.  Can you help me with this task....
>
>If i do a direct translation, it seems a bit cumbersome....as in below:
>
>1986:  tatlum tukamonuk (one thousand) – pe - kwaist ikt takamonuk (nine
hundred) – pe – stiekin tahtlelum (eighty) – pe – taghum (six)
>
>2002:  mokst tatlum tukamonuk (two thousand) – pe – mokst (two)

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