[Corpora-List] 'Standard European English' ?

[TadPiotr]

Logically, there should be cowmeat, pigmeat, chickenmeat, etc., too. That
would contribute very nicely to the "regularity" and transparency of World
English. Compounding used like some sort of agglutinative process?
But, one is reminded as well of Orwell's predictions about the language of a
totalitarian state...crimestop, dayorder, joycamp.
Tadeusz Piotrowski
 
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For my money nothing rivals "sheepmeat" (S.E.E for "lamb" or "mutton") 
Yorick Wilks


On 2 Mar 2006, at 15:37, Kate Beeching wrote:


Not to mention "éventuellement" "éventuel" in French = 'possibly, possible'.
 
Some of my MA Translation students have looked at parallel French-English EU
texts about topics such as the Erasmus programme. At first I thought the
English versions were 'not English' and read as if they were 'French
translated'  (lots of nouns ending in -ation!). Finally, however, I decided
that this was "Euro-speak" (-babble?") i.e. there is a particular type of
English which is used in these contexts. This type of English may be
developing at a great rate because often the original documents may be
written in English but by non-natives. For example, a Dane wishes to write
an EU document so s.he writes it in English.  It is a very interesting
topic. At what point do we decide that these documents are not "wrong" but a
different/new variety of English and how 'systematic' is this English? (Does
it have any rules?),
Kate
 
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> Somers, Harold wrote:
> > Using "eventual(ly)" to mean "if it happens" rather than "final"
>
> I believe this is from the German "eventuell".

In Italian "eventualmente" means the same, "in case" or something like
that.
"Eventualmente, ti chiamo" = "If xxx (it is necessary, if I feel like
doing it, etc.), I'll call you".

Best,

Gloria




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