[Corpora-List] Is a complete grammar possible (beyond thecorpus itself)?

[Yorick Wilks]

Well, the topic, of completeness/decidability and grammars, has been  
thought about and long, long ago; if modesty didnt forbid I would  
mention
"Decidability and Natural Language" in Mind, 1971, easily  
downloadable from the web. A crappy paper by Mind standards, but in  
the target zone.
Yorick Wilks



On 7 Sep 2007, at 05:02, Rob Freeman wrote:

> Rich,
>
> You are posting to the wrong thread. That angle on this subject was  
> covered well in the previous thread.
>
> Simple "rights" and "wrongs" just fail to capture it.
>
> Far from being "wrong" on the subject, I doubt many generative  
> grammarians have even contemplated the idea grammar might be  
> necessarily incomplete. Nor have many corpus linguists.
>
> Nobody's "right" or "wrong" on this one. It simply hasn't been  
> looked at.
>
> A model from this point of view will still need to be generative.  
> That is its great advantage. Corpus linguistics has worked well as  
> a model of lexicon. It is just we have lacked workable way of  
> reconciling syntax. This tells us it does not need to be an either/ 
> or between lexical and syntactic perspectives of language. We can  
> have both (because syntax is subjective on context.)
>
> Instead of bandying about "rights" and "wrongs", I think both  
> "sides" need to look at this and find what common ground they can  
> from a new perspective.
>
> -Rob
>
> On 9/7/07, Rich Cooper <Rich at englishlogickernel.com> wrote:
> There are still Chomskyans on the prowl though:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Atoms-Language-Minds-Hidden-Grammar/dp/ 
> 019860632X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-3873164-6759834? 
> ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189095805&sr=8-1
>
>
> -Rich
>
>
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