[Corpora-List] corpora-list: publishing lists of accepted and unaccepyed papers

Tue Oct 18 10:21:11 UTC 2011

Dear all,

regarding who is most likely to profit ungainly from non-openness, I absolutely agree! 

I'm not sure about whether lists of rejected papers should be published. But again, I think we should make area chairs public, and I like the idea of having review letters for positions made public.

Best,
  Thomas

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Von: "Krishnamurthy, Ramesh" <r.krishnamurthy at aston.ac.uk>
An: "corpora at uib.no" <corpora at uib.no>
Gesendet: 12:07 Dienstag, 18.Oktober 2011 
Betreff: Re: [Corpora-List] corpora-list: publishing lists of accepted and unaccepyed papers

> “Of course, openness does not make abuse impossible”

Possibly not, but it might act as a deterrent? What is it that we are actually afraid of here?
We may not be able to eliminate every individual case of abuse, but any patterns of abuse 
would become observable and investigatable? I fear that the people protected by non-openness 
are not in fact ‘timid early-career researchers’, but the more established people in positions of power 
who may – on occasion – wield that power rather arbitrarily, or with insufficient diligence, or – dare we 
acknowledge it – with some personal or intellectual bias or prejudice?

Ramesh Krishnamurthy
Visiting Academic Fellow, School of Languages and Social Sciences, Aston University, Birmingham B4 7ET
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:59:32 +0200
From: Harald Hammarström <harald at bombo.se>
Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] corpora-list: publishing lists of accepted
      and rejected papers
To: Laurence Anthony <anthony0122 at gmail.com>
Cc: corpora at uib.no

> Can you tell us all the name of an institution that publicly announces 
> the ranking of unsuccessful job applicants? Just for curiosity, I am 
> sure that many people would like to refer to this list of rejected 
> applicants just to see how many people who would apply to such an 
> insitution. I am also sure that it would be very interesting to do a 
> quick check to find out where the rejected applicants now work and see 
> how their current employer compares with the institution that rejected them.
>  

In Sweden such records are indeed public (in the sense that anyone can request copies, not in the sense that they are announced publicly in newspapers or the like). Here's an example:
http://haraldhammarstrom.ruhosting.nl/2744_001.pdf
http://haraldhammarstrom.ruhosting.nl/2745_001.pdf

There's no question that this policy makes expert reviewers be more objective. A great example is when I was in committee where one of the foreign experts hadn't understood they would be public (though this was in the instructions give to him) and gave explicit credit to one applicant (but not the others) for his expected great future work. He later defended this by saying that he wasn't aware the review was going to be public...

Of course, openness does not make abuse impossible -- for example, there is great leeway in formulating job announcements and choosing expert reviewers, and senior people who favour a certain candidate do play these cards. Another hiring committee I was in received objections as a result of the fact that all judgements were open to all. These objections were legitimate but the committee chose to ignore them without explanation.

all the best,

H

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