[Corpora-List] (no subject)

Tue May 22 19:10:49 UTC 2012

Dear All,

I agree with what has been written. What is published is published.

However, ever sent in a project proposal which was rejected, and later 
finding it recycled? Borrowing ideas and taking them on is a nasty 
phenomenon that is not new, cannot be easily stopped, but happens far 
too often. There is a great deal of short term memory about and the 
difference between heavily inspired and downright plagiarism is a thin 
one. A post doc of mine pointed out a case of plagiarism recently and 
was told by the inspired persons that they had changed the statistical 
measure, so the reuse of the concept did not need acknowledgement. Does 
it cost so much to give a reference?

We had a bad case of plagiarism in our university recently, and no 
action was taken, so as to avoid a scandal. Same has happened elsewhere 
in France. We preach one thing to students, and then let real academic 
plagiarism go unchallenged. This is not good.

Best

Geoffrey

Le 22/05/2012 11:47, Gill Philip a écrit :
> Dear Fatimah, corpora readers,
>
> The question really does concern what is and what is not public, as 
> Mike said earlier.
> Independently of who has done the research, or who has paid for it, if 
> the work has been published (in the widest sense, including conference 
> presentations, working papers, e-prints as well as paper-print 
> journals and books) then anyone can do what they want with it... 
> provided that they cite the source.
>
> If the work has *not* been published, but has been made available in 
> confidence (to supervisors, journal editors, peer reviewers, etc) and 
> is then published - presumably without the permission of nor reference 
> to the original author - then that would almost certainly be 
> illegitimate. One exception would be if the research is part of a 
> larger project in which work is expected to be shared between 
> participants in that project.
>
> Unfortunately plagiarism happens, and the victims are usually 
> young/beginning researchers who do not yet have a network of 
> colleagues to defend their interests. I sincerely hope your question 
> was just theoretical.
>
> best,
> Gill
>
>
> On 22 May 2012 11:05, fatima zuhra <fateeshah at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:fateeshah at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>
>     If someone is assigned a research project by some organization
>     (who is paying money for that), can he/she use other's research
>     work, data or methodology without the permission of the
>     researcher? And moreover, claim it to be the developer teams' own
>     work?
>
>
>     Thanks.
>
>
>     --- On *Tue, 22/5/12, Mike Scott /<mike at lexically.net
>     <mailto:mike at lexically.net>>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: Mike Scott <mike at lexically.net <mailto:mike at lexically.net>>
>         Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] (no subject)
>         To: corpora at uib.no <mailto:corpora at uib.no>
>         Received: Tuesday, 22 May, 2012, 12:22 PM
>
>
>         IN my opinion, yes. If you make something public (publishing)
>         you cannot pick & choose who will use that idea or those data.
>         Similarly you cannot have back a gift once given.
>
>         Cheers -- Mike
>
>         On 22/05/2012 05:12, fatima zuhra wrote:
>>
>>         I want to ask a question. If some scholar's work is
>>         published, can anyone use that work for a developmental
>>         project without the scholar's permission? Even the supervisor
>>         of the scholar?
>>
>
>         -- 
>         Mike Scott
>
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