[gothic-l] Re: (me again!) Crimean Gothic....
Tomas & Maire (Tom and Mary)
crosan at AIRMAIL.NET
Sat Sep 30 15:27:51 UTC 2000
Vasilev is incorrect. The word lists recorded by the Flemish (not Dutch)
ambassador were defintely not Yiddish (I myself can read and speak some
Yiddish) and not German (HochDeutsch oder PlattDeutsch) for that matter.
There is the possibility of some German words mixed in from contact
between Germans and Goths, but a great percentage of the words from
Ghislaine's list are Gothic showing a development from an East Germanic
dialect cognate with (but not descended from) Wulfilas' Gothic. Vasilev
seems to be either a biased Anti-Semite or Anti-German or both.
TC
jdm314 at aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/27/00 3:41:05 AM Central Daylight Time, dirk at smra.co.uk
> writes:
>
> << Vasilev
> pointed out that the notes of the Dutch ambassador are not reliable
> and that it is possible that the Goths that he meant were in reality
> either Jews who lived there in considerable numbers and who spoke
> yiddish or Germans, brought there as slaves from East Prussia by the
> Tatars. >>
>
> Speaking of which, could someone help me translate the following post into
> Crimean Gothic?
>
> From: <jdm314 at a...>
> Date: Sat Sep 11, 1999 00:10am
> Subject: Haubith this jeris
>
> Himma nahta ïst sa niujinsjeris dags Ïudaiwiske [Iudaiwiskaize?],
> duththe:
>
> LeSHANNAH TOVAH TIKATEVU
>
> JERJA GUTAMMA MELJAINDAU
>
> -Ïusteinus
>
>
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