[gothic-l] Re: Trailing the Eruli in the North

[Tore Gannholm]

>--- In gothic-l at y..., "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
>> Adding to personal names and the rune inscription
>> of Stentoften it is also interesting to follow the
>> trace of treasures and gold from the Roman empire
>> to Denmark including the island of Bornholm, Scania,
>> Blekinge, Kalmar Province, the Islands of Oeland
>> and Gotland and Uppland Province (Ivarl Lindquist,
>> _Galdrar_ and Olof R. Janse, _Le travail de l'or
>> en Sude a l'epoque Mervingienne_).
>>
>> It was during the reign of Anastasius that part of the Eruli
>> people migrated back to Scandinavia.  Flavius Anastasius
>> I governed Byzantium from 491 - 518 AD. The solidi
>> of the time of Anastasius I were the latest of these coins
>> reaching Scandinavia. After the arrival between 512 and
>> 515 AD of the Eruli in Scandinavia, the no solidi arrived
>> (except for some later, see underneath).
>>
>> The route of the solidi could be the route of the Eruli.
>>
>> Island of Funen     2 solidi
>> Bornholm               8 solidi
>> Scania                   8 solidi
>> Blekinge                1 solidus
>> Kalmar Province   1 solidus
>>
>> A number of solidi have been found also on the island
>> of Gotland but together with coins from the reign of
>> Justinianus I (527-565), so therefore the Gotlandic
>> coins may have arrived later.
>>
>> Erulically/Gothically
>>
>> Bertil
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>The argument in general seems to be a valid one, however, a few
>problems remain. Firstly,  by the same argument one could contruct an
>Ostrogothic migration to Germany. A large number of Ostrogothic
>tremisses have been found in the Klepsau cemetary, and a hoard of
>Ostrogothic silver siliquae have been found at Mengen, with many
>stray finds in between, indicating a migratory path via Bavaria to
>the Rhine. There was of course no migration of Ostrogoths to the
>Rhine and the finds cannot be used to demonstrate such a migration.
>The example shows that even apparently much better find evidence do
>not necessitate a migration.
>
>There are a few serious problems with the finds of Anastasius' solidi
>in Scandinavia as proof of Herulic migrations, though. Firstly, we
>hear from Procopius that the Heruli were completely defeated. He even
>reports about hunger and poverty in the aftermaths of the defeat. So
>why would they carry gold denominations if they were so poor? And why
>would the victorious Langobards allow them to to so?
>
>Also, all gold denominations found in Scandinavia are from the
>Constantinopel mints - without a single execption. Since the Heruls
>are supposed to have come from Moravia, one would expect coins from
>western mints like Sirmium, but especially from Ravenna and Rome, as
>they used to be allied with the Ostrogoths.
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>cheers,
>Dirk

Dirk,
There are no Anastasius coins found in the supposed Herulic areas in Sweden.

The Anastasius coins are mainly found in Gotland.
Tore

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