Comparing languages. Examples [gothic-l]

[Cory B Strohmier]

(Oops!  Sorry, I forgot some of the documentation.)

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:15:05 -0400 Cory B Strohmier
<corystrohmier at juno.com> writes:
> Hi Keth,
> 	"The great 'aha' experience?"  Are you slipping some Gothic
> in on us here?
> 	The following quote from the book "A History of the German
> Language" by John  T. Waterman (University of Washington Press) may
> help put the matter in a clearer context:  "The reason for our
> difficulty, of course, is that the conventional charting of the West
> Germanic family tree depends for its validity upon findings which
> presumably prove that Old High German and Old English, for example,
> have many more features in common than, say, Old High German and
> Gothic.  But this is by no means so certain; in fact, a careful
> tally reveals that the "West Germanic" languages --- though
> admittedly having much in common --- may also in several important
> features be paired separately with either the North or the East
> Germanic languages, or both..."  (page 45).
> 	Below are three texts:  Old Bavarian, Gothic, and German.
> They may help to show the closeness of the three languages.
> Cory
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Old Bavarian text:
(This is the original text from "A History of the German Language"
by John T. Waterman, page 81.)
> Fater unser, du pist in himilum, kawihit si namo din,
> piqhueme richi din, wesa din willo, sama so in himile est, sama in
> erdu.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Gothic:  (This is my translation.)
> Fadar unsar, thu is in himinam, gaweihaith sijai namo thein,
> biqimai reik thana, wesi thana wilja, sama swa in himina ist, sama
> ana airthai.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> German:  (This is my translation.)
> Vater unser, du bist im Himmel, geweiht sei dein Name,
> dein Reich komme, dein Wille waere, wie es ist im Himmel so auf
> Erden.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 13:39:21 +0200 keth at online.no writes:
> > Hi Cory!
> > Thank you for your response. But from what you write (below) it
> > appears as if you didn't have the great "aha" experience.
> > I suppose I made the mistake of explaining too much. Bairisch is
> > of course irrelevant. Below I have Dutch-German instead as
> example.
> > The point is that people just LOOK at the texts !!!    :)
> >
> > You wrote:
> > >Hi Keth,
> > >Thank you for clearing that up.  I'm sure I'll ponder what you
> > wrote for
> > >some time to come.
> > >Have a nice weekend,
> > >Cory
> >
> > I repeat the two examples again. The point is just to compare.
> Keth.
> >
> > Example 1.
> > Dutch text (Nederlands):
> > Vandaag heb ik de gehele dag getypt; toch ben ik niet vermoeid
> > omdat ik ook een wandeling gedaan heb.  (sample text of 18 words)
> >
> > German translation of Dutch text:
> > Heute habe ich den ganzen Tag getippt; doch bin ich nicht müde
> > weil ich auch eine Wanderung getan habe.
> >
> > Example 2.
> > Old Gutnish text:
> > Gutland hitti fyrsti maðr þann sum þjelvar hít. þá var
> > Gutland sá elvist at þet dagum sank ok nátum var uppi.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Icelandic translation of Old Gutnish text:
> > Gotland hitti fyrstr maðr sá sem þjalfarr hét. þá var
> > Gotland sá ?elvist at þat dOgum sOkk ok nóttum var uppi.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
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