[gothic-l] Re: Gothic word for King

[Le Bateman]

When I asked about the word for King I was thinking of a word similar to the
Cyng in OE.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dirk at smra.co.uk>
To: <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 6:05 AM
Subject: [gothic-l] Re: Gothic word for King


--- In gothic-l at y..., "Francisc Czobor" <czobor at c...> wrote:
> Dear Alberto,
>
> there is no "kh" in Gothic. The correct form is "Alareiks", being
> composed of ala- "all" and reiks "ruler, prince".
>
> Francisc
>
> --- In gothic-l at y..., kaoru666 at h... wrote:
> > I have very little knowledge in gothic but, I think that instead
of
> > Alareiks it would be Alareikhs. But as I told you I am a begginer,
> > please correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> > Alberto
> >
> >
> > > Almost correct, I think. Alaric in Gothic would be "Alareiks".
> > > Thus: Alareiks ist þiudans unsar.
> > >
> > > Francisc


Hi Francisc and Alberto,

can I slip in a short question about these name-forms, please. Are
names like Alareiks, Thiudareiks, Athalareiks etc. really attested for
those kings? Would they themselves have used these forms or are they
more theoretical reconstructions? In documents and on coins (for the
latter two) they used of course the latinised forms Alaricus,
Theodericus and Athalaricus. Thus, Athalaric's full title on coins is
D(ominus)N(oster) Athatalaricus Rix (sometimes, but rarely replaced by
Rex). Why would the latinised form not be Athalareikus or similar if
the commonly known and correct form of the name was Athalareiks?

thanks
Dirk








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