[gothic-l] Gothic and German Dialects was: EE Jews descend from Goths

[dirk at SMRA.CO.UK]

> 
> Hope you've enjoyed this screed.
> 
> -Iusteinus


Hello Iusteinus,

I greately enjoyed your comparisons. Maybe it would also be 
interesting to compare Gothic to other Old German dialects. I found 
the following texts (the first line of the Lord's Prayer) in different 
Germanic dialects. 

My impression is that the Alamannic texts are closest to the Gothic, 
followed by Rhine-Francian and Bavarian, while the Old Saxon text of 
the Heliand gives quite a different wording and is perhaps more 
difficult to compare. Given that the texts are fairly similar and that 
the earliest Alamannic text is separated from the Gothic text by over 
400 years, I guess that  Alamannic (or any other Germanic 
dialect) spoken in the 4th century was not at all very different from 
Gothic. What do you think?  


Gothic, 4th century

Atta unsar thu in himinam, weihnai namo thein.
qimai thiudinassus theins. wairthai wilja theins,
swe in himina jah ana airthai.


Alamannic, 8th century

Fatar unsar, thu in himile pist, uueihi namon deinan,
queme rihi dein, uuerte uuiljo dein,
swe in himile sosa in ertha.


Alamannic, around 780AD (St Gallener Vaterunser)

Fater unseer, thû pist in himile, uuîhi namun dînan,                
qhueme rîhhi dîn, uuerde uuillo diin, 
sô in himile sôsa in erdu.



Rhine-Francian, 9th century (Weissenbrunner Katechismus)

Fater unsêr, thu in himilom bist, giuuîhit sî namo thîn.
quaeme rîchi thîn. uuerdhe uuilleo thîn, 
sama sô in himile  endi in erthu.


East-Francian, 825AD

Fater unser, thû bist in himile, sî giheilagôt thîn namo,
queme thîn rîhhi, sî thîn uuillo, 
sô her in himile ist, sô sî her in erdu,


Bavarian, 9th century

Fater unsêr, der ist in himilom, kæuuîhit uuerde dîn namo,
piqueme rîhi dîn, uuesse uuillo dîn,
 sama ist in himile, enti in erdu.


Old Saxon, 9th century

Fæder ûse thû eart on heofonum, sî thîn nama gehâlgôd.
Tôbecume thîn rîce. Geweorthe thîn willa 
on eorthan swâ on heofonum.

Old Saxon, 840AD (Heliand)

Fadar is ûsa firiho barno, the is an them hôhon himila rîkea.       
Geuuîhid si thîn namo uuordo gehuuilico.
Cuma thîn craftag rîki. Uuerda thîn uuilleo obar thesa uuerold alla,
 sô sama an erdo sô thâr uppa ist an them hôhon himilrîkea.


cheers
Dirk





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