[gothic-l] Re: Bastarnae

[hrafnsnest]

Hej,
Here are some comments in that regard----Thanks Tore



M. Shchukin:
> The Latest Bastarnae: Problem of Archaeological Identification
>
> "The aim of the lecture is to attract attention of the specialists
> dealing with the Carpathian region to the next paradoxal situation.
> The people named Bastarnae rather often was mentioned by written
and
> epigraphical sources. During six centuries they played a very
> important role in the history of the region between the Carpathian
> mountains and Black Sea. It was obviously a numerous population.
The
> location of the Bastarnae in the 3rd-1st cent. B.C. was indicated
> rather clear by Strabo. Three groups of them, Peukini, Sidoni and
> Atmoni, dwelt at territories "in the depth of inland": between the
> Lower Danube and Dnieper.
>
> These groups corralate rather well with cultures Poianeºti-
Lukashevka
> and Zarubintsy. But the former one existed only till the middle of
> the 1st cent. B.C., the latter untill the middle of the 1st cent.
> A.D., meanwhile the name of Bastarnae didn't disappeared from the
> pages of history in the moment. They were active till the late 3rd
> cent. A.D. The question is which archaeological sites correspond to
> these latest Bastarnae?
>
> The author inclines to attribute to the latest Bastarnae the sites
of
> type Zvenigorod-Grinev-Chizhikovo in the Upper Dniester region and
> perhaps Zubra group in Volynia, although he is ready to discuss any
> other versions."




--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Tore Gannholm <tore at g...> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I can recommend Rome and the Barbarians in Central and Eastern 
Europe
> Mark B. Shchukin
> 
> 1st Century B.C. - 1st Century A.D. The end of the La Tène period
> BAR International Series 542 (ii) 1989
> Tore
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >Hi, Valulfr!
> >
> >
> >
> >A favorite sentence of the famous
> >Russian archaeologist Mark Shchukin
> >(a widely respected expert in the Celtic
> >history and a leading specialist
> >in exploration of Zarubinetskaya
> >and Poyaneshty-Lukashevka archaeological
> >cultures, from St. Petersburg) is
> >"the Bastarnae were Bastarnae".
> >He considers the Bastarnae as belonging
> >to "peoples between the Celts and Germans"
> >i.e. a third central European nation,
> >neither exactly Germanic nor Celtic.
> >Having migrated from central Europe
> >to downer Danube in some 3rd century B.C.,
> >they introduced characteristic La-Tene features
> >into two archaeological cultures:
> >Zarubinetskaya (middle Dnepr) and
> >Poyaneshty-Lukashevka (Moldova).
> >Now these cultures are reliably attributed
> >to the Bastarnae, conjecturally to the Strabo's
> >Atmones and Sidones, respectively. (The third
> >Strabo's grouping of the Bastarnae, the Peukines,
> >relates probably to Sata Nou, Romania). Moreover,
> >Shchukin supposes the Bastarnae as having been
> >an important component of the Slavonic genesis,
> >but this point of view is not commonly accepted.
> >
> >
> >
> >There are plenty publications in Russian, but
> >I can't give references in English, unfortunately.
> >
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Vladimir
> >
> 
> -- 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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