Was the word "kunig/kunigas/kunigur" a gothic word?
Ingemar Nordgren
ingemar at NORDGREN.SE
Tue Sep 19 20:17:42 UTC 2006
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "michelsauvant" <michelsauvant at ...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, David, Ingemar, Michael and Ualarauans
>
> In the following message I answer particularly to David and
> Ualarauans messages (yesterday)
> ( I didn't read at the moment the message you sent today)
>
Salut Michel!
Thank you very much for your long and informative information about
your research. It is indeed enlightning! As you know I am no linguist
and hence David and Ualaraus will provide better answers, but I still
have some points I will make.
> I will now ask you new questions:
>
> 1.Is your "a" at the end of [kuninga] pronounced like "account" or
> like "ago"?
It is more like account but with a long open 'a'.
>
> 2. I understand that there is more probability that the Visigoths
> came with the word "kuniggs" meaning "noble", than with this word
> meaning "king" . Is it true?
I do not think so personally. Even if Ualaraus is right about the
original meaning this is so late that the king-interpretation must be
more probable. As I assumed in my last mail to Ualaraus we may talk
about a 'petty-king´on the basic tribal niveau.
> In that case, I ask you what is the adjective in Gothic
> having "kunig" as root ? (like "königlich" in german)
> 3. Have you a reason to explain more the mutation of [kuninga] to
> Canigo than mutation from [kuningahauhi:] to Canigo ?
That's not my table, sorry.
> At the end of our discussion , the conclusion cold be :
> "Now , with the existence of the Canigo we are able to attest that
> Visigoths coming in Spain have had "kuniggs", or some word similar,
> in their vocabulary in the 5th century before they forget gothic"
I would say so, yes! Or, perhaps the base is kuni??
> P.S.
> 1--Like french carolingian monks I think at 3 other ways to
> reconstruct "Canigo" through "gothic words:
> --- "Kuniggs Gu" (= "Lord God"), created like "Jainko" in basque
> language.
> --- "Kunia Gu" (= "God of (our) kin" )
> --- "Kunia hauh" ( = "Hight of (our) kin") like the name of the hill
> near Ingemar's home.
I would not be surprised if this is the correct solution, since it is
more likely than to call a mountain 'howe,mound or barrow'. An
alternativ would of course be 'the kings height' - our mountain is not
sharp-peaked and accordingly it is called a hill, the Kind's Hill.
I might add that 'k' in 'kind' should be spoken as 'tj', not 'k'. That
is in Swedish of course.
Salutations cordiale!
Ingemar
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