Antes==An(ak)tes/Anakes=Anaktes
dciurchea
dciurchea at YAHOO.COM
Wed Dec 30 19:50:36 UTC 2009
In fact, not a matter of scale but of language.
For Slavic(and Romanian) peoples around, Voyevode means anakes == judge, ruler, king (just google on "Carantania"=Slovenia as an example)- not warrior which is a temporary job. Making everything Slavic in the Gothic realm belongs to the Stalinian occupation. The obvious correlation Woden=Anakes=> Goth as God makes no sense from Slavic.
My contributions use the
1.local archeological finds along with meseum artefacts here in Cluj-the most complete museum on history of Transylvania(such as Dacian and Neolitic artefacts,Apollo and Mithra representations on funeral stellae, antlers, celtic cross seal, numeous necropolae, etc)
2. I take Erdely Tortenete seriously on data not interpretation.
3. I am successfull in identifying Romanian(i.e. Wallachian-e.g. Odin's Valakijalf) phonems and toponimics in Jordannes, which makes the text perfectly viable for the 100AD-300AD period, a feature not obtained until now.
4. My methodic contribution is the use of the least squares method in modelling experimental data: The model must avoid systematic errors (such as mother tongue of the Goths) and must fit many events; more exents fitted yield a more reliable model-that's me. Note that most of Jordannes readers finish by considering that the story is not sustainable although it is a very educated account of events but with mixed languages and with toponimics not familiar to everyone, so it is not an easy lecture to follow from e.g. France.
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Marja Erwin <marja-e at ...> wrote:
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> Is this simply an objection to the change in scale?
>
> English "folk" (human beings in general) and German "Volk" (a people) have cognates ranging from a whole people, to a whole army, to a specific sub-tribe, to a specific military unit. So some terms have made analogous changes in scale.
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> On Dec 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, dciurchea wrote:
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> > Everybody is aware of this slavic "translation" which makes no sense at all. The office is of King/Basileus not colonel.
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> >
> > --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Ivan Kotliarov <lrpg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > In latin the equivalent is Dominus and Voievod(Voyevoda) - in romanian
> > > - meaning "I allow you=Voie va dau(a da voie==to allow; va=to you ",
> > > fitting the Greek Anakes as eplained by Plutarch, abreviated as
> > > Voda/Wodan.
> > >
> > > Sorry, this is absolutely incorrect - Voievod came form Slavic
> > > Voyevoda - Voye-Voda military leader (literally "one who conducts the
> > > warriors")
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> > >
> > > Best wishes,
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> > >
> > > Ivan
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> Marja Erwin
> marja-e at ...
>
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