News website in Gothic, it's here

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Hello Edmund,

Your answer is helpful. The rephrasing is something I already do. For
example I used 'witodalaus atgaggan' for hacking, as it is breaking the law
to get into a system, it looked like a good way to phrase it to me and
spying is which I translated as '  . Of course Wulfila used neologisms too
and what this basically is is Wulfilan Gothic, we can claim that my website
is how Goths spoke and they would definitely be able to understand it up to
a certain extent, but Wulfila added a lot of words etc. to Gothic which
originally weren't present there, so the Gothic which we use is already a
partly invented language, just as people invented words for modern Hebrew
to make it appropriate to this time but instead of a natural process made
it up themselves, we do the same with Gothic here in this case, what I do
is everything but a natural process and this is some kind of modern Gothic,
but it isn't a natural process. spying is translated as* 'analaugniba
biniuhsjan' , to look into something very good in secret.*  A problem
though is that if I have to describe everything the articles might become
too long and it might take me too long to write, this is why I use existing
neologisms like siukahus to make them readable and not too exhaustive to
write. There are also words like 'Turkey' for which I simply have to use
'Taurkja', I can't use anything else than to use this as I can't use
alternatives to describe it.


I didn't know this history of international though, I might consider your
alternative.

Roel


2014-08-28 23:07 GMT+02:00 edmundfairfax at yahoo.ca [gothic-l] <
gothic-l at yahoogroups.com>:

>
>
> Dear Gerry,
>
> I think you are certainly on the right track.
>
> The word 'international' is apparently a modern coinage: the earliest
> attestation of the word in English comes from the late eighteenth century,
> according to the OED, and my French etymological dictionary gives the
> nineteenth century for the same word in French. Classical Latin, and as far
> as I can tell, Ancient Greek had no such word.
>
> The concept was captured in Classical Latin by using the genitive plural
> of the word 'gens' ('nation, race, people, tribe'); thus 'international
> law' would be 'ius gentium,' literally 'law of nations.'
>
> It seems to me that this would be a better model to follow for Gothic,
> rather than the modern languages. Thus 'international law' would
> accordingly be rendered in Gothic as 'witoth thiudo,' again 'law of
> nations/peoples.'
>
> Judging from its use in the Bible translation, Gothic 'thiuda' appears to
> correspond well to Latin 'gens' in meaning, at least in this particular
> aspect: a group of people that share a common cultural, political,
> linguistic, etc. background (cf. OE 'theod,' ON 'thjoth,' OHG 'thiota').
>
> The more that neologisms are resorted to in attempting to write in Gothic,
> the less Gothic it becomes, and you end up with a mishmash of real Gothic
> and a Tolkienesque invented language. It is best to work with the limited
> word-hoard that is extant and simply rephrase to avoid fantastical
> creations.
>
> Edmund
>
>  
>
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