Borrowed word order in phrases

[Peter Hook]

Hi Eduardo,

An example of a stranded preposition in French [but no idea of where the
writer is from]:

www.leforum.bistrophilo.fr/.../viewtopic.php?f...t...
Mar 3, 2009 - 10 posts - 6 authors
Mmmm c'est délicieux ; on la mettait de côté et à la fin de la semaine il y
en avait assez *pour faire une tarte avec* !

Cheers,

Peter Hook



On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Koka <lachicadelgorro at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Eduardo,
>
> A recent account of the word order "Nada sé" (as opposed to "No sé nada")
> in Spanish by Octavio de Toledo attributes this word order to Latin
> influence. You can check the paper (in Spanish) out here (
> https://www.academia.edu/2552836/Entre_gramaticalizacion_estructura_informativa_y_tradiciones_discursivas_algo_mas_sobre_nada_).
>
>
> Hope it helps!
>
> Carlota
>
> > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:09:15 -0500
> > From: kariri at gmail.com
> > To: etnolinguistica at yahoogrupos.com.br; histling-l at mailman.rice.edu;
> LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org
> > Subject: [Histling-l] Borrowed word order in phrases
>
> >
> > [apologies for cross-posting]
> >
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > I'm looking for examples of languages where certain (types of) phrases
> > present a different, borrowed word order when compared to a more
> > common, inherited type. Well-known examples are, in English, legal
> > terms in which the adjective follows the noun, preserving the original
> > Norman French order: "attorney general", "court martial", etc.
> > (Jespersen 1912:87-88).
> >
> > Are you aware of similar examples from other languages? And of cases
> > in which the borrowed order, originally limited to borrowed lexemes,
> > ended up becoming the default usage?
> >
> > I would appreciate any insights and bibliographic references on this
> topic.
> >
> > Obrigado,
> >
> > Eduardo
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eduardo Rivail Ribeiro, lingüista
> > http://etnolinguistica.org/perfil:9
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