Bears

Mon Sep 19 22:09:17 UTC 2011

Excellent suggestions Jimmy. The mind wanders to many possibilities. I kind
of like it special since 'turtle' is my clan. 

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wahjen
rolland nadjiwon
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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Richard Zane Smith
Sent: September-19-11 5:30 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Bears

great to hear form you too Jimmy! 
and a great example of indigenous thought communicated in story.
-richard-

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Huang,Chun <huangc20 at ufl.edu> wrote:

just to share a nicely done, and inexpensive, "animation" that helps share
traditional knowledge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia2gvsL4tsQ

If you're also interested in the content, originally in Tagalog by Joey
Ayala, below is a rough "translation" (can't get all the spirits right, but
helps understanding), courtesy of Dr. Machel Malay: 

in the song, the singer talks to the sea turtle, saying, 'sea turtle, the
old one, you carry your home around with you, don't you have anywhere to put
it, in the land you grew up in? With the slapping of the waves, and the
currents of centuries, you still continue to crawl in the mud. And yet in
the deep ocean you glimpse your freedom, bobbing and diving into the deeps.
O sea turtle the old one, could you please teach me the way to make the
heavy [load] lighter?'.... then he compares the sea turtle's situation to
his own, asking 'sea turtle the old one, could we actually be kin? For even
though I have a home, I have no place to put it. The land I once knew is
full of fences, made even stronger by land titles and documents. O sea
turtle the old one, I do not understand, the land I came from is now a
property'...

And I also do much-much appreciate the original thread where this one
branched out of. Good to hear from Richard, Dr. Hardman, and Uncle Rolland.

Jimmy

now at DLSU-Manila

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:07:01 -0700, Julian Lang wrote:

There are several types of animation. And there is a wide range of digital
animation tools. So there are many questions to be answered initially. How
do you folks want the animated story to look like exactly? Animated still
images, cell animation, stop-frame? What I've discovered about animation as
a Native language person and as an animator is that animation is incredibly
labor intensive. And it can easily be pricey, If you asked to animate all of
the stories, it can easily cost you 60K. Perhaps 1 at a time?
Julian Lang
California
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From: Claire Bowern 
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Bears

Hi Tammy,
Bardi people at One Arm Point have had success with children's stories for
the local school by having the children dress up and play the parts of the
characters. The older ones get involved as narrators and scene design and
the younger ones play the characters. They've acted out the stories at
school assemblies and videoed, and photos are taken which are then made into
books. It's certainly not the same as animation but everyone got really into
it, and it was lovely for the elders to see the stories come alive with the
kids. They were so pleased to see it.
Claire

On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Tammy DeCoteau wrote:

> Mitakuyapi (My relatives),
> 
> We have discussed this topic in our office and we have mixed feelings
about it.  
> 
> In the drawer of my desk we have ten stories our Treasured Elders made.
Each story teaches a different value (show respect, help others, etc.) and
they feature a Turtle and a Dragonfly.  These are meant to be animated.  Who
knows, though, how long those stories are going to sit in my desk drawer.
Once I talked with an animation company and do to a few minutes it was
$60,000.00.  
> 
> We have always felt that anything in the language is beneficial.  Perhaps
it will create the spark in someone to become passionate about their
language.  
> 
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
> 

Claire

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