Latin perfects and Fluent Etruscan in 30 days!

Patrick C. Ryan proto-language at
Wed Aug 11 20:34:57 UTC 1999

[ moderator re-formatted ]

Dear Damien and IEists:

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Damien Erwan Perrotin <114064.1241 at>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 3:25 PM

> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent : Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:33:30

>> Pat commented:

>> Some might be interested in Egyptian jm-3, 'kind, gentle, well-disposed,
>> pleasining, gracious, be delighted, charmed', which I believe is likely to
>> represent an AA example of the same root.

Damien responded:

> I am quite sceptical about the relationship. If am- is indeed related to
> amb, then the Proto-IE prototype should have been, according to Martinet
> something like H2e-mbhi, or H2-mbhi, with an initial laryngeal. If it is
> not, the prototype should have been H2em, then too with a laryngeal, as
> there is no recorded VC root in IE

Pat comments:

There is a *H{2}am- in Pokorny meaning 'grasp'. But, like Pokorny, I believe
this is probably the basis for the entries under *me:-.

Damien continued:

> and that /j/ is conserved in most IE
> dialects. So unless you supose that the IE laryngeal is the reflex of an
> AA /j/,

Pat responds:

No, I propose that IE *H and AA *? are the results of Nostratic *? but that
AA *?(i/a) produced Egyptian j.


PATRICK C. RYAN (501) 227-9947; FAX/DATA (501)312-9947 9115 W. 34th St.
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meipi er mangi veit hvers hann af rstum renn." (Havamal 138)

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