ara/ndano
Larry Trask
larryt at cogs.susx.ac.uk
Mon Mar 22 09:18:42 UTC 1999
On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, Rick Mc Callister wrote:
[LT]
> >Basque <izokin(a)> `salmon' is widely suspected of being *ultimately* of
> >Celtic origin, but not *directly*: instead, a Celtic loan into Late
> >Latin is favored by most commentators as the direct source of the Basque
> >word.
> I seem to remember a Spanish dialect form esoqui/n [maybe
> Asturian] Wasn't the Latin form something like esox? The ending
> -i/n, of course, is diminutive in Spanish --with similar forms in
> just about all Romance languages.
Yes, and yes. The Asturian form, <esguin> ~ <esguino> `young salmon',
is suspected of being a loan from Basque. Tovar wanted to see the
Basque word as borrowed directly from Celtic, but Michelena takes that
ending as pointing rather to a Romance origin.
[LT]
> >A Celtic origin has also been suggested for <arrau> ~ <arraun> `oar',
> >pointing to earlier *<arranu>, possibly to be identified with the word
> >represented by Old Irish <ram(e)> `oar'. Don't know if there's anything
> >much behind this, especially since the nasal appears to be wrong.
> Spanish for "oar" is "remo." So a form similar to Irish was
> floating around the area.
Possibly.
[LT]
> >Finally, <maite> `beloved' has been thought for a century to have been
> >borrowed from the Celtic word represented by Old Irish <maith> `good'.
> >The semantics requires some fancy footwork, but the Basque word has an
> >anomalous form for a native word, and is surely borrowed from somewhere.
> I've heard it said quite a few times that Maite is a
> "nickname" for "Mari/a Teresa." And indeed, I've Maites whose legal
> "Spanish name" was "Mari/a Teresa."
Yes, it is true that the female given name <Maite> is the conventional
Basque equivalent of the Spanish <Maria Teresa>. However, the adjective
<maite> `beloved' has existed in the language for as long as we have
records.
Larry Trask
COGS
University of Sussex
Brighton BN1 9QH
UK
larryt at cogs.susx.ac.uk
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