[lg policy] The Colonisation of Britain Continues: 16% of Primary School Children Do not Speak English as Their Home Language

Julia deBres juliadebres at YAHOO.COM
Mon May 17 14:27:38 UTC 2010


Like all the other replies so far, I 100% agree with Harold's approach.

This is (at least?) the third time this discussion has been brought up in the past few months.  Rather than going through it each time, perhaps Harold you could prepare a form email (like the one below) and just resend it each time someone who doesn't know the policy takes issue with these kind of posts being sent, so that we don't need to re-discuss it each time?

Though of course comments about the management of the list need to be addressed, it seems like an unnecessary thing to relitigate en masse each time, when we could be discussing the issues instead...

Julia de Bres




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From: Harold Schiffman <haroldfs at gmail.com>
To: Language Policy List <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
Sent: Mon, 17 May, 2010 4:07:36 PM
Subject: Re: [lg policy] The Colonisation of Britain Continues: 16% of Primary School Children Do not Speak English as Their Home Language

Dear Davyth and others,

Here we go again.  I tend to forward messages on the topic of language
policy (which often
includes immigration policy) even if they originate with groups that
most of us would
disagree with.  I publish a disclaimer at the end of every message,
assuming that folks
can figure out what the message is all about, and that it is not the
opinion of myself, or
of others on this list.  I assume (as do many others) that we need to
know what such
groups are saying, even if we don't agree with them.  I've gotten flak
recently for sending
some unpleasant messages, but most members seem to support the idea that we need
to know who our 'enemies' are, and what they are saying.  If however
it is the overwhelming opinion
of members of this group that we should NOT distribute such messages,
I will change my
strategy, but I predict that we would then become a 'nicey-nicey'
listserv that favors one
point of view, and I already see too much of that in various places.
(I lived through the loyalty-oath
controversies of the 1950's and 60's and would not like to see such a
policy take over on this
listserv.)

Alternatively, should I "bracket" such unpleasant messages with
"danger signals" so as to
make it clear that it is unpalatable and disgusting, and might offend
some of our readers?
I could do that, but I think I would soon be more likely to turn this
listserv over to someone
else to manage.

Sincerely,

Hal Schiffman


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Davyth Hicks <davyth.hicks at eurolang.net> wrote:
> Hi Harold,
>
> Are you sure that you should send out this 'report' from the far right
> British National Party and republished on this NPI site?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Davyth Hicks
> Eurolang
>
> Harold Schiffman wrote:
>>
>> The Colonisation of Britain Continues: 16% of Primary School Children
>> Do not Speak English as Their Home Language
>>
>> According to figures released in 2008, more than 30 state schools in
>> England were made up solely of ethnic minority pupils with no white
>> children on the roll. The rapid takeover of Britain by non-indigenous
>> peoples has been confirmed by new Department of Education figures
>> which have revealed that 16 percent of primary school children aged 11
>> and under speak English as a second language. This translates to
>> 518,020 pupils. In secondary schools, around 11.6 percent or 378,210
>> pupils do not speak English as a first language.
>> At special schools, 9,380 pupils, or 10.9 percent, do not speak
>> English as a first language.
>>
>> The final total for all schools is 905,610 pupils, or 14 percent — but
>> this does not include second or third generation immigrant children
>> who do speak English at home.The growth in non-indigenous pupil
>> numbers also directly parallels the rise in pupils eligible for Free
>> School Meals (FSM), which, according to reports, is a measure of
>> poverty. In secondary schools, 15.4 percent, or 441,000 pupils, are
>> eligible for the dinners, up from 14.5 percent, or 417,970 pupils last
>> year. It means an extra 23,000 secondary school pupils are now
>> eligible for the dinners than there were in 2009.
>>
>> According to University of Bristol research issued in January this
>> year, the number of white primary school pupils in London has fallen
>> by a quarter since 2002.The research defined a school as “minority
>> white” if less than 30 percent of its pupil base was white. Using that
>> measure — which is clearly inadequate — the number of white minority
>> primary schools in London rose from 22 percent to 36 percent between
>> 2002 and 2008. This means that only 6 percent of primary schools in
>> London now have a “substantial white majority,” the researchers said.
>>
>>
>> http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/2010/05/15/the-colonisation-of-britain-continues-16-of-primary-school-children-do-not-speak-english-as-their-home-language/
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Dravidian Linguistics and Culture
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University of Pennsylvania
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